The Sage Answers Beholder Questions

Felon said:
Q: Are firing the eyes treated as a single free action, multiple free actions, one standard action, or something else? The MM entry states that the beholder can fire its eyes while moving full speed or making a bite attack. That doesn't exactly clarify the type of action using its eyes is considered. Is a beholder with only a partial action (e.g. during a surprise round or when slowed) able to move its speed and still fire off one or more eyebeams? Is a hasted beholder able to use its extra partial action to fire each of its eyes a second time within a round?

A: Using one or more eyes is a standard action of a beholder. A beholder reduced to partial actions can move or use eyes, but not both (except for a 5-foot step).
If it's a standard action, then it can't do it while making a bite attack.
 

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The heroic party slowly crestes the hill to look upon a valley of what apperas to be a barren wasteland littered with floating balls and mishapen sacks. Upon closer inspection the floating sacks are the decomposing remains of what use to be every child's worst nightmare, Beholders. The stench seems to grow thicker and more tangible the further into the grave yard our heroes walk.

A noise up ahead alerts our heroes that they are possibly not alone.

There it is again, a sound that resembles a chain dragging the ground from over the next hill top. Our adventurers advance with weapons and faith drawn to support them in this errie land.

Before they get even half way up the hill, the silhouette of a hunched back humanoid figure wearing tattered robes crests the hill with a hand pointed in the parties direction, and the last remnants of the setting sun fading behind it.

The archer knocks his bow, and takes aim. The champion warrior tightens his grip upon his mighty battle axe. The cleric grasps her holy symbol, and begins a prayer. And, the servant of the arcane prepares a special treat for just the occation, if things go sour.

The dark figure screams something in an unintelligable language, and flings both arms, with a long chain hanging to the ground attached to its right arm, out to his sides. As the heroes flinch at the sudden movement by the unknown creature, and take a look at their surroundings they notice the floating masses starting to move.

The beholders are starting to move...
 
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I hope you guys enjoy.

This is a really basic version of what I see in my head. I hope that it works, in the least.
 

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hammymchamham said:
That visual excites me (as a DM) but if I was a player would freak me out. Heck, I'm getting freaked just thinking about it


agreed...bothered me until I did something with it. :D
 

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LGodamus said:
Does any one other than me have the 2e book of beholder"I,Tyrant"........Just wondering...lots of good info in it, even if it does debunk that beholder graveyard thing.

Yes I do, and man is it cool!

Do you have the poster that came with it? Love that thing!
 

Re: Re: The Sage Answers Beholder Questions

Zappo said:
If it's a standard action, then it can't do it while making a bite attack.

Not necessarily. From the context, I would expect that using its eyes and making a bite attack would be a full attack action (and the beholder could only make a 5' step ... er, float ... whatever). Or, the beholder could make a regular move and either bite or attack with any or all of its eyes, but not both. (Think about it-your ranger can attack with his sword as a standard action. That doesn't mean that he can't attack with his sword and his off-hand dagger when he makes a full attack.)
 

But using the eyes is not an attack. It's a standard action. You can't attack, and take a standard action, even if you use your full round to do so. Attacking is a standard action. Attacking more than once is a full round action. Only one standard action is allowed in a turn.

And in any case, if using the eyes is a standard action, it couldn't make a full move at the same time.

There's really no way to bring all those statements in line.

Either it's a standard action, and the MM is wrong, or it's a free action, and the sage is wrong.

I'd vote for standard action, and ignore the MM extra text. SU abilities are usually standard actions, and that makes the beholder a bit less devasting.
 

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