Pictures of the one of the Gith pages in the MToF (and the Nagpa)

gyor · Mar 10, 2018

Paul Farquhar said:
It has enough similarities (both species are wizards, both have a small fixed number, both created through a ritual gone wrong, both are evil), combined with the illustration, to at least give grounds for a law suit, if not guarantee a win.

As for them being around since 1983, I've been playing since 81, on and off, and haven't come across them before (maybe they looked less skeksislike?), and as far as I know the Raven Queen was a 4e addition.

The originals are fixed in number, but they might be capable of reproduction.

MonsterEnvy · Mar 11, 2018

Parmandur · Mar 11, 2018

Pretty sure they are different enough to not be problematic: if "Treants" protect WorC from the Tolkien estate, then this is different enough.

QuietBrowser · Mar 11, 2018

Ath-kethin said:
I don't know about rights holders, but the nagpa has been around since 1983 or so. Which means The Dark Crystal definitely came out first, but if nobody has yelled about the monster in its myriad appearances since then (1983, 86, 93, I think it showed up in a 4e book too, etc), it would be a bit disingenuous to try to holler about it now.

Monster Manual 3 for the 4th edition featured the Nagpa.