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I must add that the rules can be great for many low-magic setting with little to no refluff. I did a Dragonlance one shot with them (Just added a ''mage'' class with the warlock chassis, with each moon being the patron) and it is a great fit.

The rules for dangerous journey and corruption of body and soul can be quite good for people playing dangerous survival-mode setting like Darksun.
 


BookBarbarian said:
This sounds awesome.
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Thanks. The warlock (with a specific spell list that fits the setting; AiME's Loremaster has one) really is the best class to give a little magic to low-magic setting. I also added warlock-inspired class to AiME called the Dwimmerlaik. Its a class of adventurer that delved in the dark places like Mirkwood, Angmar or even Mordor and got out with a corrupting burden that give them a fraction of the dark arts. In practice its just features with new names and refluffed Patrons (Mirkwood= Fey, Mordor=Fiend and Angmar= Undying which may be replaced with Hexblade now). With the list of spells fitting the lore of Middle-Earth, the class really is a beauty.

For Dragonlance I did the same, but with new Patrons made from scratch. The Pact boons are replaced by the Gift the mage receives after beating the test at the Tower (Gift of the Staff, Gift of the Tome, Gift of the Cloak).
 

vincegetorix said:
Thanks. The warlock (with a specific spell list that fits the setting; AiME's Loremaster has one) really is the best class to give a little magic to low-magic setting. I also added warlock-inspired class to AiME called the Dwimmerlaik. Its a class of adventurer that delved in the dark places like Mirkwood, Angmar or even Mordor and got out with a corrupting burden that give them a fraction of the dark arts. In practice its just features with new names and refluffed Patrons (Mirkwood= Fey, Mordor=Fiend and Angmar= Undying which may be replaced with Hexblade now). With the list of spells fitting the lore of Middle-Earth, the class really is a beauty.

For Dragonlance I did the same, but with new Patrons made from scratch. The Pact boons are replaced by the Gift the mage receives after beating the test at the Tower (Gift of the Staff, Gift of the Tome, Gift of the Cloak).
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Does your Dwimmerlaik gain Shadow Points when gaining or using the Dark arts?
 

BookBarbarian said:
Does your Dwimmerlaik gain Shadow Points when gaining or using the Dark arts?
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It starts with 3 permanent Shadow Points at lvl 1 when the Dwimmerlaik select its Burden (Patron). Later on I gave them Advantage on check to resist gaining Shadow Points. I dont want the class to have penalties on level up. To be honest, I give a lot of Shadow Point in my games: my players know they cant treat the campaign as any murderhobo D&D campaign. I you dont fight the good fight, your PC will end up a wretched creature under my control and you'll roll another hero. So 3 Permanent SP is a big deal from my point of view.
 

vincegetorix said:
It starts with 3 permanent Shadow Points at lvl 1 when the Dwimmerlaik select its Burden (Patron). Later on I gave them Advantage on check to resist gaining Shadow Points. I dont want the class to have penalties on level up. To be honest, I give a lot of Shadow Point in my games: my players know they cant treat the campaign as any murderhobo D&D campaign. I you dont fight the good fight, your PC will end up a wretched creature under my control and you'll roll another hero. So 3 Permanent SP is a big deal from my point of view.
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3 Permanent is certainly a big deal. My players haven't picked up any permanents yet.
 

BookBarbarian said:
3 Permanent is certainly a big deal. My players haven't picked up any permanents yet.
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All in all that's a good thing: they're being heroes! Note that I also remove most damaging cantrips (IIRC I only let Chilling Touch), so the powerlevel is pretty on par with the Scholar.

But as always, when I take time designing new awesome stuff, no players want to play it :p
 

vincegetorix said:
For Dragonlance I did the same, but with new Patrons made from scratch. The Pact boons are replaced by the Gift the mage receives after beating the test at the Tower (Gift of the Staff, Gift of the Tome, Gift of the Cloak).
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Fascinating. I'm interested in how you designed the Orders of High Sorcery (or patrons). What determines if a mage receives a Staff, Tome, or Cloak?
 

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