OD&D What is Mystara?

gyor

Legend
Here's my take:

Greyhawk = Vanilla D&D
Forgotten Realms = Vanilla D&D
Mystara = Vanilla D&D
Dragonlance = Vanilla D&D but even more Tolkien-esque
Birthright = Vanilla D&D but the PCs are rulers
Spelljammer = D&D in space
Planescape = Planehopping D&D
Dark Sun = Post-apocalyptic D&D
Eberron = D&D meets Indiana Jones

I think describing Mystara as being like Jules Verne, HG Wells and ER Burroughs is rather misleading, given that there are strongly Verne/Wells/Burroughs-ian rpgs out there such as Space: 1889 and Castle Falkenstein. At most Mystara is D&D with some minor Burroughs-ian elements but more than anything else it's straight up wizards, orcs n' magic swords D&D.

None of those are settings are Vanilla, just because YOU don't understand them doesn't make them Vanilla.

You post was useless reductionism even worst then trying to reducing the settings to niches.

These places have all kinds of unique stories, with unique characters, and unique places, but the flavour is in the details and the stories, not silly and insulting generalizations.
 

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Wiseblood

Adventurer
I somewhat agree with Doug McCrae But i would break it down like this.

Greyhawk = Shades of grey or N vs. E
Forgotten Realms = G vs. E
Mystara = Law vs. Chaos
Dragonlance = Epic G vs. E
Birthright = Risk, diplomacy and D&D
Spelljammer = D&D in space
Planescape = Planehopping D&D
Dark Sun = Post-apocalyptic D&D
Eberron = D&D GoT light meets Hellboy. ( the Guiermo Del Toro version or perhaps League of Extraordinary Gentlemen)
 

gyor

Legend
I somewhat agree with Doug McCrae But i would break it down like this.

Greyhawk = Shades of grey or N vs. E
Forgotten Realms = G vs. E
Mystara = Law vs. Chaos
Dragonlance = Epic G vs. E
Birthright = Risk, diplomacy and D&D
Spelljammer = D&D in space
Planescape = Planehopping D&D
Dark Sun = Post-apocalyptic D&D
Eberron = D&D GoT light meets Hellboy. ( the Guiermo Del Toro version or perhaps League of Extraordinary Gentlemen)

Another massive over simplification of settings.
 


doctorbadwolf

Heretic of The Seventh Circle
Read the Broken Chain novels among others in 4e, the Shadar Kai use pain to keep from being devoured by their own shadowy nature. It might not be the same in 5e.

And they loved spiked chains, the weapon of choice for those who feel that whips are sadistic enough.

And it's not porn, but it's the closest to it of any setting.

None of that has anything to do with BDSM.

And it isn’t just not porn, it isn’t close to porn. It’s just a setting that has some sex in it. Sex isn’t porn.
 



Urriak Uruk

Gaming is fun, and fun is for everyone
Kitchen sink settings. Like Greyhawk, FR, and Mystara.

This doesn't mean that they are generic (although they are sometimes referred to as such), this doesn't mean that they aren't quirky, this doesn't mean that they aren't different from each other (more high fantasy, more swords and sorcery, etc.). Instead, it only means that it is a large, multi-purpose setting that can accommodate a diverse number and type of "standard" D&D adventures and tropes. In other words, if you choose this type of setting, it would be fairly simply to quickly adapt any standard D&D module or AP to fit somewhere within it.


POV settings. Like DL, DS, Eberron.

A POV setting is a setting that is the result of a particular POV; it usually has modest or severe departures from the standard races and classes of D&D, along with a distinctive milieu that is not just a fantasy sandbox. A campaign in this setting should be taking advantage of the unique features of the setting.


Meta settings. Planescape, Spelljammer.

PS and SJ are "settings," but they are also explanations for the interstitial space between campaigns. You can have a campaign set in any other particular setting that is also a part of a meta setting.


Any way, that's how I view it.

This is a pretty good way of categorizing the settings. I might move Dragonlance into Kitchen Sink simply because on the surface level it really does share most of the "D&D fantasy tropes," even though it has a very Tolkien-esque grand war as its foreground. But it is certainly more distinct than the other three (FR, Greyhawk, Mystara).

I'd also put Ravnica and Birthright in POV settings. The former is arguably more distinct from FR D&D as Eberron (or more), the latter simply lacks many of the races/classes we now expect and is focused very much on human wars like a game of Risk.

Another massive over simplification of settings.

Part of the thought experiment here is, how do we simplify these settings into a core tenet, while also keeping them distinct from each other. I think this is exactly what the folks at Wizards are trying to do now with releasing settings, and is one of the biggest reasons why Ravnica and Eberron are the first settings released; they are very much obviously different from your typical D&D experience.

If Mystara, or even Greyhawk, are going to get an official release, they'll need a unique angle on D&D that can be instantly understood by reading the blurb on the back cover. If they can't meet that standard, I think the likelihood of release drops to zero.
 


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