I bet if one wanted to, one could go through official modules and assess the hooks for "heroic expectations" and figure out if/how the game has assumed heroic characters over time.
Piracy And Other Malfeasance
Yes. And?
No, we don't have to. But a lot of us want to play white hats regardless.
And it is pretty lame to blame that on the marketing, instead of on people not wanting to spend their precious leisure time pretending to be someone who makes the world around them worse.
Them not listening is still a Session Zero problem.
Identifying and placing blame is less important than finding ways to fix or avoid the situation.
Sure, but the discussion at hand was specifically about blame, or about the GM in question refusing to accept it.
Well, one would hope there's an actual ethical difference between being a paper-pusher among thousands of employees and violently running someone through with a saber for what they have in the hold of the ship.
MGibster
Legend
Yeah! We want to play people who are different from us in real life.
Do most of the storm troopers in the empire actually fire at (let alone hit) anyone? How many of the thousands of people an individual tax collector for the empire sends things out to are being ground to poverty by it?
But yes, in any case it isn't shooting someone or being the one to decide how regressive and oppressive the tax system is.
Voadam
Legend
Ben Kenobi: "And these blast points, too accurate for Sandpeople. Only Imperial stormtroopers are so precise."
Maybe the discussion at hand should be about something else?
Placing the blame does nothing if it does not lead to fixing the issues. And, the word "blame" is emotionally loaded. You can expect that it will work against the cause of getting the GM to deal with their part of the issue, as they will be probably be far more invested in not taking that "blame", possibly to the point of engaging in rhetorical shenanigans to do so.
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