Pathfinder to Release Lost Omens: Draconic Codex in December

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A new Pathfinder book focusing on dragons is coming out in December. Barnes & Noble posted a pre-order listing for Lost Omens: Draconic Codex, a new Lost Omens book focusing on the various kinds of dragons found in the world of Golarion. The rulebook will include stats for over 20 kinds of dragons, including some found in the unannounced Monster Core 2 rulebook. Additionally, the rulebook will include statblocks for archdragons, which serve as the equivalent to ancient dragons in the Pathfinder ruleset. Per the pre-order listing, the book will be released in December 2025.

The full description of the new book can be found below:

Dragons! The very name invokes power beyond reckoning, fire that can melt mountains and fangs the size of swords. To face a dragon is to face the ultimate challenge of any adventurer’s career. The reward for victory: gold, enough to twist any mortal’s heart into a bigger monster than the one they just slew. Inside this tome lies the secrets of dragonkind, as well as those mortals who look upon them with awe or with bitter envy. Research a fearsome foe or summon the courage to make an ally of these primordial beings and put your strength and wisdom to the test. Success will see triumph beyond measure, while failure leads to an ignominious end within the dragon’s maw!

Inside, you’ll find:
• Statistics for over 20 types of dragons, including expansions on the dragons found in Monster Core and Monster Core 2!
• Statistics for the ferocious archdragons, the oldest and mightiest dragons of their kinds!
• Expanded background and lore for dragons, including information on dragon physiology!
• Nine draconic deities for dragons and adventurers alike to worship!
• Ancestry and heritage options to play a draconic character of your own, from expansions to the dragonblood and kobold to a brand-new dragonet ancestry!
• Draconic pacts for those brave enough to tie their fates to these dangerous and magical beings.
• Character options for characters of all types that wish to claim the power of dragons, including the draconic acolyte archetype to take on the physical features of your draconic benefactor!
 
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dave2008 said:
Are the chromatic and metallic dragons completely gone from PF2 or just de-emphasized?
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They haven’t removed them from digital products that featured them, I know there’s still a black dragon in the most recent Foundry module update for the Abomination Vaults AP, as well as the drow settlement. From an official lore perspective, I am sure Paizo considers them gone since they can’t use them under the ORC license in products going forward.

Edit: I'm actually not sure that last line is accurate, so let's go with they seem uninterested in using OGL content anymore.
 
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Velderan said:
They haven’t removed them from digital products that featured them, I know there’s still a black dragon in the most recent Foundry module update for the Abomination Vaults AP, as well as the drow settlement. From an official lore perspective, I am sure Paizo considers them gone since they can’t use them under the ORC license in products going forward.
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Is there a particular reason they can't use them in the ORC license? They are still in the OGL and, I believe, in CC now too. I am not familiar with how ORC works, but I would assume Paizo could use things that have alternate open licenses. I know I can use the OGL and CC versions of D&D in one product.

That being said, I am fairly certain Paizo is trying to distance themselves from WotC content as much as possible.

It is just a shame to me, I would have preferred keeping the PF chromatic and metallic dragons and just file the numbers off (red dragon becomes a fire dragon or mountain dragon, something like that). These new types are just not filling the role of the originals for me (maybe I am to set in my ways).
 

dave2008 said:
Is there a particular reason they can't use them in the ORC license? They are still in the OGL and, I believe, in CC now too. I am not familiar with how ORC works, but I would assume Paizo could use things that have alternate open licenses. I know I can use the OGL and CC versions of D&D in one product.

That being said, I am fairly certain Paizo is trying to distance themselves from WotC content as much as possible.

It is just a shame to me, I would have preferred keeping the PF chromatic and metallic dragons and just file the numbers off (red dragon becomes a fire dragon or mountain dragon, something like that). These new types are just not filling the role of the originals for me (maybe I am to set in my ways).
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I don't think you can mix the OGL and ORC. TBut more broadly to your point, it has more to do with Paizo disentangle Pathfinder from WotC's D&D.
 

dave2008 said:
Is there a particular reason they can't use them in the ORC license? They are still in the OGL and, I believe, in CC now too. I am not familiar with how ORC works, but I would assume Paizo could use things that have alternate open licenses. I know I can use the OGL and CC versions of D&D in one product.

That being said, I am fairly certain Paizo is trying to distance themselves from WotC content as much as possible.

It is just a shame to me, I would have preferred keeping the PF chromatic and metallic dragons and just file the numbers off (red dragon becomes a fire dragon or mountain dragon, something like that). These new types are just not filling the role of the originals for me (maybe I am to set in my ways).
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I'm unsure if you could mix and match ORC and ORL or CC content, so I probably should edit my previous post to say they don't seem interested in using OGL content in future books.
 


dave2008 said:
Is there a particular reason they can't use them in the ORC license? They are still in the OGL and, I believe, in CC now too. I am not familiar with how ORC works, but I would assume Paizo could use things that have alternate open licenses. I know I can use the OGL and CC versions of D&D in one product.

That being said, I am fairly certain Paizo is trying to distance themselves from WotC content as much as possible.

It is just a shame to me, I would have preferred keeping the PF chromatic and metallic dragons and just file the numbers off (red dragon becomes a fire dragon or mountain dragon, something like that). These new types are just not filling the role of the originals for me (maybe I am to set in my ways).
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Red dragons are now cinder dragons (coming in Monster Core 2). The Horned Dragon is identical to the Green Dragon. These creatures did not suddenly cease to exist, they're just getting new designs and lore instead of copypasting DnD's ideas.
 

grankless said:
Red dragons are now cinder dragons (coming in Monster Core 2). The Horned Dragon is identical to the Green Dragon. These creatures did not suddenly cease to exist, they're just getting new designs and lore instead of copypasting DnD's ideas.
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I believe we've also had it confirmed that the black dragon will return as the bog dragon. Overall, I would expect that the chromatics at least will return in some form. Personally, I'm less certain on the metallics as those are more obviously DnD. Or if they do, I'd expect larger changes for them than the chromatics.
 

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