I don’t believe so. Might have been a few powers that allowed it, but in general you could not move 2 squares, so a power, and then move the rest of your speed.
D&D General Mike Mearls says control spells are ruining 5th Edition
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Most strikers has attack powers that have movement and minor action movement powers.
And the ones that didn't had pushed and slides so you technically moved away.
Some defenders too.
Zardnaar
Legend
3 saves and no weak saves or the difference is 1-4 points vs 11.
Designing more spells isnt the solution when simple fix is eliminate bad saves.
My point is you're more likely to get Wizards to design more spells than to design a system where there's no bad saves.
Because many of the problems are self-inflicted via bias and nostalgia.
Zardnaar
Legend
Lanefan
Victoria Rules
Easy enough to tweak any spell that targets either Intelligence or Wisdom to instead target both, with the victim having to use the worse of the two saves...
Lanefan
Victoria Rules
That's not luck, that's actual good design: you get the bits right that most of the people are going to use most of the time, then let the other bits (that people don't use nearly as often) fend for themselves.
1e and 3e did much the same thing. They got low-mid level right - which is where the vast majority of play occurs - and didn't worry nearly as much about high level where the wheels fall off.
Lanefan
Victoria Rules
Tradition and nostalgia would lead to both - you'd have bad saves at low level progressing to good saves at high level.
This reads a lot like "6 is better than 3 if d&d d&d 5e had done something hypothetical that it didn't do and that hypothetical did not also create a bunch of new problems instead of being pixie dust" it falls apart immediately because players are still equipped with neovancian prep and could have enough of the S A+ and A tier spells while the missing safeguards assure the most optimal slot distribution. Your still relying on safeguards like vancian prep to make it work but those aren't present in 5e either. All your hypothetical pixie dust would do is create more top tier spells and make it even easier to target weak saves
This is bizarre. 5e combat is far more static than it was in the past and a big part of that is the fact that PCs don't need to consider OAs as meaningful risk on the odd chance they are even subject to them now that AoOs are gone. If the goal is to make combat involve more dynamic fluid movement it needs to provide positive design for that supported by tactical elements like draw steel rather than stripping all of the tactical elements and adding a time suck
