Critical Role's The Legend of Vox Machina Season 4 Comes Out in June

Clint_L · Tuesday at 8:29 PM

I've enjoyed this series, but I really, REALLY loved The Mighty Nein, and I hope they are able to take lessons learned from that to give this season of VM more even narastive pacing, which is where I think TMN particularly excels and this series hasn't. Yet.

Bolongo · Tuesday at 8:37 PM

Osgood said:
I've never watch the streams (I don't have the time or patience for actual plays), but I find that interesting. Based on the animated series, I just assumed he was a warlock and the guns were a creative interpretation of eldritch blast.

When they switched to 5e he became a Fighter with a homebrew Gunslinger subclass, muticlassed a few levels into Warlock.

saviirkad · Tuesday at 11:34 PM

Bolongo said:
When they switched to 5e he became a Fighter with a homebrew Gunslinger subclass, muticlassed a few levels into Warlock.

No Warlock levels, pure Fighter. He did take a magic initiate feat, but the "patron" like element was pure roleplay.

billd91 · Tuesday at 11:54 PM

Bolongo said:
Yep, which is why all the rest of the deities, apart from Sarenrae, are straight up the 4e pantheon.

And since Ashley Johnson joined the group after the one-shot, presumably once they had converted over to Pathfinder, it also is a pretty good explanation why Sarenrae got added to the pantheon.

Nord Ronnoc · Wednesday at 1:16 AM

Bolongo said:
When they switched to 5e he became a Fighter with a homebrew Gunslinger subclass, muticlassed a few levels into Warlock.

Percy has the Warlock Magic Initiate feat.

Dire Bare · Wednesday at 4:18 AM

Misanthrope Prime said:
Legitimate question.

Crit Role changed the names of the gods because they're WotC IP- Sarenrae>Everlight, Whispered One>Vecna, etc.

Stranger Things... didn't have to pay WotC a fee to name their villain Vecna, and if anything, Vecna is now a big part of WotC's brand identity because of that.

As such, do you think they will want people to call Vecna... Vecna?

In Stranger Things, the mind flayer, the demogorgon, and Vecna are not representing the D&D versions, but rather the kids reference the "real" monsters with what they know from their D&D games. If WotC decided to get cranky and litigious . . . I'm not sure they would be successful.

Critical Role is a dramatization of a D&D game, using D&D (and Pathfinder) IP representing exactly what it is. Does the safe harbor of the OGL protect an actual play podcast turned media juggernaut with an animated series adaptation? Maybe.

Stranger Things doesn't need to "own" the names mind flayer, demogorgon, and Vecna, as it's obvious to viewers these are just names the kids pull from the game and aren't actually what the creatures are. Critical Role, while somewhat dependent on WotC's game and has a good relationship with WotC, would rather "own" the characters used in their stories.

That's my take, at least.

dave2008 · Wednesday at 5:16 AM

Question: Am I the only D&D and Anime fan that just can't get into Vox Machina?

Bolongo · Wednesday at 6:14 AM

Nord Ronnoc said:
Percy has the Warlock Magic Initiate feat.

Yeah, I misremembered that.

Dire Bare · Wednesday at 2:41 PM

dave2008 said:
Question: Am I the only D&D and Anime fan that just can't get into Vox Machina?

Yes.

Reynard · Wednesday at 3:55 PM

dave2008 said:
Question: Am I the only D&D and Anime fan that just can't get into Vox Machina?

I would guess some portion of the viewership is turned off by the crude humor (not saying that is the case with you). But otherwise I think it is pretty strong overall.