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<blockquote data-quote="DreamChaser" data-source="post: 4317783" data-attributes="member: 1190">Of course, the 1 HP is conceptual rather than actual. the Angels of Valor demonstrate that pretty well. The difference between the level 8 Angel (soldier) and the level 16 Angel (minion) is a +1 AC and a bit more to hit and damage (DHMBWM).The difference is that regardless of how many HP the 8th level angel of valor actually has, by the time the DM is using him against the party at 16th level he should be a minor obstacle. Since 45 HP could take several rounds to get rid of (as could 22 or 11), 1 HP models this.If two level 16 angels of valor were to get into a fist fight, the would (logically) treat each other as 8th level angels in terms of HP because to each other (or to the wind), they are not a relatively minor threat.Any time I want to throw an angel of valor at the party that is a moderate (non minion threat) I can always choose the level 8 version). It is purely my choice and my convience to utilize the game provided short hand that says &quot;this creature is not supposed to last more than one attack).DC</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DreamChaser, post: 4317783, member: 1190"] Of course, the 1 HP is conceptual rather than actual. the Angels of Valor demonstrate that pretty well. The difference between the level 8 Angel (soldier) and the level 16 Angel (minion) is a +1 AC and a bit more to hit and damage (DHMBWM). The difference is that regardless of how many HP the 8th level angel of valor actually has, by the time the DM is using him against the party at 16th level he should be a minor obstacle. Since 45 HP could take several rounds to get rid of (as could 22 or 11), 1 HP models this. If two level 16 angels of valor were to get into a fist fight, the would (logically) treat each other as 8th level angels in terms of HP because to each other (or to the wind), they are not a relatively minor threat. Any time I want to throw an angel of valor at the party that is a moderate (non minion threat) I can always choose the level 8 version). It is purely my choice and my convience to utilize the game provided short hand that says "this creature is not supposed to last more than one attack). DC [/QUOTE]

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