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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 5691624" data-attributes="member: 2067">Well, it becomes a problem with the design assumptions of the game. The damage of brutes and artillery takes into account the fact that there is a leader available, for instance. I could not use those monsters, but that puts limits on my ability to imagine awesome adventures for the party, which isn't great. It's also that a feature I'm enamored of with these 0-level rules is that your role can change from round to round. At the moment, your role is your class, and it won't change for the duration of that character. The Feywild Barbarian is supposedly going to change that up a bit, but I like the idea of adapting your tactics round-by-round as you actually play the game, rather than house it all in chargen. It makes the game feel a lot more dynamic if you have to pay attention to all the roles to see where you can best make your contribution. Instead of just making sure bloodied characters are healed or you are adjacent to your marks, you have to track a few different axes. Which seems awesome!Yeah, but that's a patch. Speaking as someone who has been relegated to &quot;nobody chose the Leader or the Defender, so that's you for the next campaign, bud!&quot; more than once, being heavily cajoled to choose certain limited archetypes is a hassle. I'd really like for there to be a way to change your role round-by-round so that the party can do what they want without having to consider &quot;balance&quot; if they don't want to, while still remaining balanced. Not to mention loosening the &quot;You only have one job, and that is all you have to do&quot; feel of the roles in general.I think it could work, really. Just turn the basic role mechanics (area effects, extra damage, marks, and 2/encounter healing surges) into four specific powers, and have them be triggered once per round (maybe using the minor action)...you might not be able to use &quot;traditional&quot; class roles along with them, but it might work...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 5691624, member: 2067"] Well, it becomes a problem with the design assumptions of the game. The damage of brutes and artillery takes into account the fact that there is a leader available, for instance. I could not use those monsters, but that puts limits on my ability to imagine awesome adventures for the party, which isn't great. It's also that a feature I'm enamored of with these 0-level rules is that your role can change from round to round. At the moment, your role is your class, and it won't change for the duration of that character. The Feywild Barbarian is supposedly going to change that up a bit, but I like the idea of adapting your tactics round-by-round as you actually play the game, rather than house it all in chargen. It makes the game feel a lot more dynamic if you have to pay attention to all the roles to see where you can best make your contribution. Instead of just making sure bloodied characters are healed or you are adjacent to your marks, you have to track a few different axes. Which seems awesome! Yeah, but that's a patch. Speaking as someone who has been relegated to "nobody chose the Leader or the Defender, so that's you for the next campaign, bud!" more than once, being heavily cajoled to choose certain limited archetypes is a hassle. I'd really like for there to be a way to change your role round-by-round so that the party can do what they want without having to consider "balance" if they don't want to, while still remaining balanced. Not to mention loosening the "You only have one job, and that is all you have to do" feel of the roles in general. I think it could work, really. Just turn the basic role mechanics (area effects, extra damage, marks, and 2/encounter healing surges) into four specific powers, and have them be triggered once per round (maybe using the minor action)...you might not be able to use "traditional" class roles along with them, but it might work... [/QUOTE]

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