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<blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 5691966" data-attributes="member: 59057">Your level 1 character is not very tough at all in 4e... I believe the level 0 rules do what they should do. Give the chance of a single adventure to advance to heroic...I would not want D&amp;D to have more than one or at most 2 of those levels...If you look at older editions, it is level 2 where you started to be better than the average goblin You have all important class features (a bard gets access to spells) and your HP is high enough to not die to a random blow from a goblin.The only thing that bothers me at level 1 in 4e is not the &quot;power&quot; of the classes, but the number of powers already available.So IMHO you could easily fit some extra &quot;levels&quot; between 0 and 1:1. only race powers (level 0)2. only race and theme powers (optional level 0.5)3. a multiclass feat from your class which usually end in getting one defining feature as an encounter/daily....i think you may get the point...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="UngeheuerLich, post: 5691966, member: 59057"] Your level 1 character is not very tough at all in 4e... I believe the level 0 rules do what they should do. Give the chance of a single adventure to advance to heroic... I would not want D&D to have more than one or at most 2 of those levels... If you look at older editions, it is level 2 where you started to be better than the average goblin You have all important class features (a bard gets access to spells) and your HP is high enough to not die to a random blow from a goblin. The only thing that bothers me at level 1 in 4e is not the "power" of the classes, but the number of powers already available. So IMHO you could easily fit some extra "levels" between 0 and 1: 1. only race powers (level 0) 2. only race and theme powers (optional level 0.5) 3. a multiclass feat from your class which usually end in getting one defining feature as an encounter/daily. ... i think you may get the point... [/QUOTE]

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