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<blockquote data-quote="gyor" data-source="post: 6165752" data-attributes="member: 6670153">A Paladin with the Archery Mastery and Arcane Archer feats is surprisingly good. As I read it once you get Two Attacks and Divine Strike you should be able to make two attacks with full attack and two with -5, each doing 1d8 radiant or necro damage and the first of those arrows could have a spell like Flame Strike on it as well. And that's before one includes any buffing spells. Heck you can even holy smite with one of the attacks.&nbsp;Most Paladin's will likely go with Weapon Mastery and Mounted Combat instead or for a greater focus on divine magic with divine iniate.&nbsp;I also like that Lay on Hands and Cleansing body are seperate from channel divinity and that cd is now basically an encounter power. &nbsp;A level 20 Paladin will be hard to put down.&nbsp;I don't agree that half the Paladin's stuff has been ripped out. I will say the Paladin's oath matters more now then it did before.&nbsp;While the Paladin may do slightly less damage then before, depending on his choice of feats, I feel the Paladin is more powerful over all. I'd rename Aura of Protection divine grace.&nbsp;The Monk is simply awesome. So is divine intervention on the cleric, not super powerful but flavourful. I believe divine intervention was an optional rule from a previous edition.&nbsp;As for Knights I get how they work. If an enemy straight up attacks you they get disadventage. If they attack someone else they get disadvantage, unless they change the target to you.&nbsp;The main purpose of this is to discourage an enemy from attacking an ally. The reason that you can also grant disadvantage if someone targets you first is when you have no allies near you the feature won't be useless.&nbsp;So far this is my favourite playtest so far with only a few complaint like I want to see more subclasses.&nbsp;Its easy to see how they will build the blackguard now and I can even see an easy way to build an Avenger with this new verison of Paladin. Mounts are not required with every oath now.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gyor, post: 6165752, member: 6670153"] A Paladin with the Archery Mastery and Arcane Archer feats is surprisingly good. As I read it once you get Two Attacks and Divine Strike you should be able to make two attacks with full attack and two with -5, each doing 1d8 radiant or necro damage and the first of those arrows could have a spell like Flame Strike on it as well. And that's before one includes any buffing spells. Heck you can even holy smite with one of the attacks. Most Paladin's will likely go with Weapon Mastery and Mounted Combat instead or for a greater focus on divine magic with divine iniate. I also like that Lay on Hands and Cleansing body are seperate from channel divinity and that cd is now basically an encounter power. A level 20 Paladin will be hard to put down. I don't agree that half the Paladin's stuff has been ripped out. I will say the Paladin's oath matters more now then it did before. While the Paladin may do slightly less damage then before, depending on his choice of feats, I feel the Paladin is more powerful over all. I'd rename Aura of Protection divine grace. The Monk is simply awesome. So is divine intervention on the cleric, not super powerful but flavourful. I believe divine intervention was an optional rule from a previous edition. As for Knights I get how they work. If an enemy straight up attacks you they get disadventage. If they attack someone else they get disadvantage, unless they change the target to you. The main purpose of this is to discourage an enemy from attacking an ally. The reason that you can also grant disadvantage if someone targets you first is when you have no allies near you the feature won't be useless. So far this is my favourite playtest so far with only a few complaint like I want to see more subclasses. Its easy to see how they will build the blackguard now and I can even see an easy way to build an Avenger with this new verison of Paladin. Mounts are not required with every oath now. [/QUOTE]

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