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<blockquote data-quote="MoonSong" data-source="post: 6165866" data-attributes="member: 6689464">The point isn't to be forced to use a spellbook, but to be forced to prepare spells (which is the point of being a sorcerer), which is going to be compulsory now, given that wizards have gained tactical versatility over their existing strategical versatility and sorcerers will be forced to use the same number of slots as them and have the exact same attack and score progression. (Unfortunate because sorcerers have traditionally been MAD while wizards remain SAD) Just casting spontaneously wasn't good enough when wizards couldn't and they had less slots, and isn't going to be enough now. (Unless desingers get truly generous when designing the feature)And the colective of Esoteric Knowledge, Brew Potion, Scribe Scroll and Spell Mastery result limiting and flavour restricting, not every sorcerer player wants to play the role of the guy in robes (heck I bet not even all wizard players do). The sorcerers are way more diverse than Wizards gives them credit for. In fact part of the charm of being a sorcerer was to be able to be a complete ignorant on how magic works and still work wonders.&nbsp;&nbsp; On the warlock's side, An slot warlock is also like an oximoron, what they showed at the beginning was cool, just needed polishing, maybe I lack enough imagiantion but I cannot fathom&nbsp; a warlock who actually has to keep track of spells used. And they were suppossed to wear armor and actually fight better than wizards. Shoehorning these two into the wizard mold will only cause them to lose their identity, become suboptimal or both. (And general consensus was the Witch subclass was awfully bad losing too many features in exchange for a feat everybody else could just take, which kind of actually confirms my point)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MoonSong, post: 6165866, member: 6689464"] The point isn't to be forced to use a spellbook, but to be forced to prepare spells (which is the point of being a sorcerer), which is going to be compulsory now, given that wizards have gained tactical versatility over their existing strategical versatility and sorcerers will be forced to use the same number of slots as them and have the exact same attack and score progression. (Unfortunate because sorcerers have traditionally been MAD while wizards remain SAD) Just casting spontaneously wasn't good enough when wizards couldn't and they had less slots, and isn't going to be enough now. (Unless desingers get truly generous when designing the feature) And the colective of Esoteric Knowledge, Brew Potion, Scribe Scroll and Spell Mastery result limiting and flavour restricting, not every sorcerer player wants to play the role of the guy in robes (heck I bet not even all wizard players do). The sorcerers are way more diverse than Wizards gives them credit for. In fact part of the charm of being a sorcerer was to be able to be a complete ignorant on how magic works and still work wonders. On the warlock's side, An slot warlock is also like an oximoron, what they showed at the beginning was cool, just needed polishing, maybe I lack enough imagiantion but I cannot fathom a warlock who actually has to keep track of spells used. And they were suppossed to wear armor and actually fight better than wizards. Shoehorning these two into the wizard mold will only cause them to lose their identity, become suboptimal or both. (And general consensus was the Witch subclass was awfully bad losing too many features in exchange for a feat everybody else could just take, which kind of actually confirms my point) [/QUOTE]

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