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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Rechan" data-source="post: 3979308" data-attributes="member: 54846">I agree with the change, simply because I felt the "Half-orcs = rape" angle was just too limiting. Yes, 'we found a way for it to work with the tiefling'. It sounds like Baker is trying to come up with a way to 'work it with the half-orc'. From BakerThe story that we're getting from Tieflings is that Tieflings are descendants of human empire that intentionally mixed itself with devils (both via Warlock class and via the tride and true bump and grind) for power. Thus resulting in taint. So yes, some tieflings or half-orcs could've resulted from rape. So could half-elves. Or any human. Or well, any one. And while yes, "True Love between Human and Orc" is a possible backstory, I know this much: when the "Mystery Race in the Core" was talked about, people were ballistic about the Orc being possible, because to them, Orcs were irredeemable evil monsters that ravaged and killed and it would ruin their D&D if Orcs were PCs and not monsters. So, while you can change your fluff for your homebrew to make Orcs loving and warm and possible, it is possibly not the majority's story for Orcs. But I agree with a poster above: Either you have irredeemable savages, or you let PCs play orcs in the first place. If you take out the irredeemable savage part, then you lose "irredeemable savage race that everybody can go and slay". I personally have no problem with "Humans can breed with anything, other races can't". That makes humans unique, and drives home the "Humans = corruptable".On the topic of "Non-rape produced half-orcs", I have heard two ideas on EnWorld that I thought was great.1) His father was a human ranger, a mountain man that lived on the frontier, and his mother was a half-orc who "married" his dad. To the father, the half-orc did as she was told, was quiet, and was strong enough to help him with manual labor. To the half-orc, the human didn't beat her and wasn't cruel like male orcs.2) Orcs, as a race, are chaotic and unreliable. You don't want to settle down with one, but because they're viril, have impressive stamina and a bit primal, this attracts others who want a bit of an exciting one-night stand. Both male and female orcs have "Big physical attributes", and are quite wild in bed. The problem is that they're hyper-fertile (allowing them to breed back to full strength within a decade), which results in many half-orc children.I've been tempted to use #2 for my Orcs, but I've been itching for just "Yeah, they're irredeemable. Go kill'm."</blockquote>

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