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1/4 million dollar fine for bootlegging d+d books?
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<blockquote data-quote="Greatwyrm" data-source="post: 1015297" data-attributes="member: 479"><p>I'm getting off topic here, but...</p><p></p><p>How does this even relate to the 4th amendment's protections against unreasonable search and seizure?</p><p></p><p>1. Apparently, it's legally required to wear a seatbelt while in a moving vehicle wherever this woman was (as is the case here in Illinois).</p><p></p><p>2. She apparently wasn't wearing a seatbelt.</p><p></p><p>3. Since most cars have transparent windows, the officer probably saw she was not wearing her seatbelt.</p><p></p><p>Any time you break a law in public, you shouldn't be surprised if a law enforcement officer is there to arrest or ticket you for it. As I mentioned earlier, not wearing your seatbelt in Illinois is a crime with a standard $50 fine. If a state trooper is looking at me as I drive by and sees I'm not wearing a seatbelt, he can pull me over and give me a ticket, because he witnessed me breaking the law. If a cop sees you shoot someone as he happens to glance in your living room window, would that in any way count as an unreasonable search?</p><p></p><p>Turning wildly back on topic, my thanks to Sigil. I had completely missed the point that being a potential criminal made you guilty in this draft of the law.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greatwyrm, post: 1015297, member: 479"] I'm getting off topic here, but... How does this even relate to the 4th amendment's protections against unreasonable search and seizure? 1. Apparently, it's legally required to wear a seatbelt while in a moving vehicle wherever this woman was (as is the case here in Illinois). 2. She apparently wasn't wearing a seatbelt. 3. Since most cars have transparent windows, the officer probably saw she was not wearing her seatbelt. Any time you break a law in public, you shouldn't be surprised if a law enforcement officer is there to arrest or ticket you for it. As I mentioned earlier, not wearing your seatbelt in Illinois is a crime with a standard $50 fine. If a state trooper is looking at me as I drive by and sees I'm not wearing a seatbelt, he can pull me over and give me a ticket, because he witnessed me breaking the law. If a cop sees you shoot someone as he happens to glance in your living room window, would that in any way count as an unreasonable search? Turning wildly back on topic, my thanks to Sigil. I had completely missed the point that being a potential criminal made you guilty in this draft of the law. [/QUOTE]
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