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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Roman" data-source="post: 2109640" data-attributes="member: 1845">It's not even more powerful, since to the class CRs one needs to add the normal racial CR... Thank you - I will definitely give these a look. Indeed, hence the two choices are equal here.  I do think that damage reduction against bludgeoning weapons alone would be worth 0.1 CR, why do you think it is so weak as to warrant only +0.024 CR? You have a very good point here, but I would like it to be about as strong as the Burly and Tough ability - since they are two choices and should be approximately equal. Still, you are right that this might be too strong because of the automatic success. I would say it is worth about a feat or possibly slightly more. It effectively adds 5 hit points, while toughness only adds 3 hit points, but the hit points this adds are less useful (since the character is unconscious and bleeding for an extra 5 hit points rather than having extra 3 hit points of consciousness and ability to act).  Hmm, maybe you are right. What would be suitable for upgrading, or perhaps adding more abilities might be the way to go?</blockquote>