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<blockquote data-quote="JDowling" data-source="post: 2310638" data-attributes="member: 12596">well, as I said above Green Whisperer never says &quot;existing class&quot;&nbsp; it says &quot;bard&quot; or &quot;druid&quot;.&nbsp; I could find no mention of needing to already have those classes in Green Whisperer (and no mention of &quot;existing class&quot;), so I read it as &quot;by RAW you can be 0 in Bard and Druid and cast as a 5th level Bard and a 5th level Druid if you took this class&quot;.The other stuff, Mystic Theurge, I thought wouldn't do you any good to try to pump Green Whisperer anymore because Mystic Theurge acctually does say &quot;existing class&quot; so it would seem that a Fighter X/Green Whisperer 1/Mystic Theurge 1 wouldn't gain anything in spellcasting from Mystic Theurge.Thanks for the SRD quote - that might lend some more weight to an argument that Green Whisperer doesn't give you Bard and Druid spellcasting if you didn't have the classes already <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />.Bard/Druid seems like a pretty weak combination to me anyway.&nbsp; Bard2/Druid3/Green Whisperer5/Sublime Chord1/Mystic Theurge9 might be promissing though (pump up Sublime Chord with Mystic Theurge) 9th level Sor/Wiz spells (as a Sorcerer) and 9th level Druid spells both at caster level 17.&nbsp; It would likely be a pretty weak compared to straight Sorceror, Bard, or Druid until late levels and lots of feats though.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JDowling, post: 2310638, member: 12596"] well, as I said above Green Whisperer never says "existing class" it says "bard" or "druid". I could find no mention of needing to already have those classes in Green Whisperer (and no mention of "existing class"), so I read it as "by RAW you can be 0 in Bard and Druid and cast as a 5th level Bard and a 5th level Druid if you took this class". The other stuff, Mystic Theurge, I thought wouldn't do you any good to try to pump Green Whisperer anymore because Mystic Theurge acctually does say "existing class" so it would seem that a Fighter X/Green Whisperer 1/Mystic Theurge 1 wouldn't gain anything in spellcasting from Mystic Theurge. Thanks for the SRD quote - that might lend some more weight to an argument that Green Whisperer doesn't give you Bard and Druid spellcasting if you didn't have the classes already :). Bard/Druid seems like a pretty weak combination to me anyway. Bard2/Druid3/Green Whisperer5/Sublime Chord1/Mystic Theurge9 might be promissing though (pump up Sublime Chord with Mystic Theurge) 9th level Sor/Wiz spells (as a Sorcerer) and 9th level Druid spells both at caster level 17. It would likely be a pretty weak compared to straight Sorceror, Bard, or Druid until late levels and lots of feats though. [/QUOTE]

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