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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 8083530" data-attributes="member: 12731"><p>I would like to encourage you to remember one very important evaluation aspect:</p><p></p><p>Does the game still feel recognizably like D&D and 5th edition?</p><p></p><p>That is, far too many "fix" projects end up incorporating too many of its designer's pet peeves, resulting in a game ignored by the greater gaming public simply because it no longer feels like a replacement game - it feels like its own entirely new thing. A brand new game is in itself fine, but few to no such games have even come close to replace D&D or even supplant it. Pathfinder 1 has arguably come the closest, and if Level Up aims for that level of success, it needs to kill any darling that weakens the impression this is still D&D 5th edition.</p><p></p><p>Formally: If Level Up is to succeed at the goal of supplementing 5th Edition for gamers wanting more crunch, each game element needs to be judged on whether it helps achieve that goal. Or is the game so enthusiastic about "fixing" things it forgets its main mission? Likewise, are you the reviewer looking at the trees only, not seeing the forest? It's all too easy to dive deep into whether Dragonborn Fins rate B or C, but this risks missing the greater picture: <em>it doesn't matter</em> unless the public buys the product in the first place.</p><p></p><p>And that is why I encourage you to make one of your promised threads about this - an otherwise "invisible" aspect of this playtest document. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 8083530, member: 12731"] I would like to encourage you to remember one very important evaluation aspect: Does the game still feel recognizably like D&D and 5th edition? That is, far too many "fix" projects end up incorporating too many of its designer's pet peeves, resulting in a game ignored by the greater gaming public simply because it no longer feels like a replacement game - it feels like its own entirely new thing. A brand new game is in itself fine, but few to no such games have even come close to replace D&D or even supplant it. Pathfinder 1 has arguably come the closest, and if Level Up aims for that level of success, it needs to kill any darling that weakens the impression this is still D&D 5th edition. Formally: If Level Up is to succeed at the goal of supplementing 5th Edition for gamers wanting more crunch, each game element needs to be judged on whether it helps achieve that goal. Or is the game so enthusiastic about "fixing" things it forgets its main mission? Likewise, are you the reviewer looking at the trees only, not seeing the forest? It's all too easy to dive deep into whether Dragonborn Fins rate B or C, but this risks missing the greater picture: [I]it doesn't matter[/I] unless the public buys the product in the first place. And that is why I encourage you to make one of your promised threads about this - an otherwise "invisible" aspect of this playtest document. :) [/QUOTE]
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