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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ridley's Cohort" data-source="post: 15013" data-attributes="member: 545">No I do not.Because even if I accept your conclusions of relative merit in different areas, I know in real play this disparity means a lot less than the sterile numbers suggest.What really matters is that the players enjoy the game.  And in order to enjoy the game that usually means that they get to have their PC have their dramatic shining moments where they demonstrate their heroic competence.In fact, a "75% as good as a fighter" combatant is not going to outshine the real McCoy very often at all.  Maybe 20% of the time if not less.And outside of combat, guess what?  The Rogue does not hog the glory.  That is because 95% of our roleplaying interactions are with regular NPCs who do not have meaningul Diplomacy, Bluff, or Sense Motive checks.  So the Fighter or Cleric or Wizard who happens to be talking to an interesting NPC just roleplays it out and their unskilled Cha 10 roll is adequate to the task most of the time.  The gall of those classes stepping on the Rogue's toes!So while the Rogue may be 1000% better at social skills, the Fighter will indeed steal away the spotlight in social interactions a significant amount of the time (as well as other characters).  Darn those roleplayers!Scouting...  Well, you got me there.  The Fighter loses out on that one.  Of course those annoying Rangers and Druids and Wizards keep stealing the spotlight from the Rogue there, too.If you want to tally a meaningful score, don't look at minmaxing average HP damage per round.  Look at how many times each PC made a significant contribution that made the player really proud of his character.  If you keep that score, I do not think you will find a big disparity.</blockquote>

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