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Message: <blockquote data-quote="IceBear" data-source="post: 16436" data-attributes="member: 1118">I think there have been at least 10 people who have posted on this thread that have stated that in actaul play in their campaigns they aren't experiencing this problem.  Besides yourself, I don't think there has been anyone posting in agreement with you.  Given the number of DMs and players on these boards, if this was *REALLY* a problem don't you think there would be more people arguing with you?When you posted about removing Improved Invisibility and a few other spells, there were several posts in those threads supporting you in your claim that wizards might dominate at high levels.  Thus, you might have had a valid point in that thread (I personally didn't have an issue, but that's me)I don't really see any of that happening here.  So, you can argue that in your opinion the rogue is too powerful, but I *really* think that if this were true, there would have been a lot more support for you in these posts.There are a lot of things in 3E that seem very powerful on paper, but in actual game situations are not (Whirlwind + Great Cleave is one, as I've yet to see a high level fighter surrounded by hordes of weak monsters and one extremely powerful one that could be cut down by the multiple Great Cleaves from the Whirlwind attack), and this is one of them.IceBear</blockquote>