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<blockquote data-quote="kamosa" data-source="post: 9964" data-attributes="member: 1037">But that wouldn't be your style.A SKILLS CHARACTER?!?!?!Are you kidding.&nbsp; Yes, they do get the best skill points, but when did that equate to being broken if they can do anything else besides use skills?&nbsp; Sneak attack is a skill based attack.&nbsp; Most of the time I see it used, it involves either tumbling to a flank position or moving silently and hiding to try and get in position to attack.&nbsp; As for doing as much damage as a fighter every round, I haven't found this to be true in actual game play.&nbsp; As someone pointed out, most times the rogue has to move more then 5 feet to get flank position.&nbsp; This limits them to one attack per round.&nbsp; This is in comparison to a fighter that doesn't have to flank to get full damage, so for the most part doesn't have to give up full attacks.The other balancing factor that you seem intent on ignoring is hit points.&nbsp; Most straight rogues can't sit toe to toe with the high end monsters.&nbsp; In our game if they don't take down the monster in the first round or two, they go down.&nbsp; Even in D&amp;D death is a pretty serious deterent to charging in to combat.&nbsp;&nbsp; Most of the time I've seen the rogues picking their spots to sneak attack, spending time delaying their action until they can find a opportunity to sneak attack, or tactically maneuvering to try to get a flank.&nbsp; This is opposed to the fighter that just charges in without much thought to tactical position (&quot;Move me to an enemy and I hit it for 34 points&quot; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> )</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kamosa, post: 9964, member: 1037"] But that wouldn't be your style. A SKILLS CHARACTER?!?!?! Are you kidding. Yes, they do get the best skill points, but when did that equate to being broken if they can do anything else besides use skills? Sneak attack is a skill based attack. Most of the time I see it used, it involves either tumbling to a flank position or moving silently and hiding to try and get in position to attack. As for doing as much damage as a fighter every round, I haven't found this to be true in actual game play. As someone pointed out, most times the rogue has to move more then 5 feet to get flank position. This limits them to one attack per round. This is in comparison to a fighter that doesn't have to flank to get full damage, so for the most part doesn't have to give up full attacks. The other balancing factor that you seem intent on ignoring is hit points. Most straight rogues can't sit toe to toe with the high end monsters. In our game if they don't take down the monster in the first round or two, they go down. Even in D&D death is a pretty serious deterent to charging in to combat. Most of the time I've seen the rogues picking their spots to sneak attack, spending time delaying their action until they can find a opportunity to sneak attack, or tactically maneuvering to try to get a flank. This is opposed to the fighter that just charges in without much thought to tactical position ("Move me to an enemy and I hit it for 34 points" :) ) [/QUOTE]

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