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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hollywood" data-source="post: 1698501" data-attributes="member: 7408">I agree about the 'Ranger' class, but then again as a DM I never let any player just grab 1 level of anything.  Perhaps its a throw back to the years of playing 1st edition, but mixing ~5-10 different classes (prestige classes too) at 1 or 2 levels a piece always seemed extremely silly to our group.  That being said, Bards in 3.0 definetly were NOT beyond useless, and definetly not even useless.  Perhaps a power gamer might find them useless, but the bard I have in my 3.0 group continually surprises me with the things he can and will do.  Perhaps he's not a combat artist, but there are a lot more things that can be done in D&D even for a tatical gaming oriented group.And how would that be different than 3.5?  3.5, whether you like the new rules or not, *was* a cash grab, plain and simple.  Way too much was changed in 3.5 that it has essentially become it's own version and isn't straight-forward in compatibility with 3.0; although its easier to convert to 3.5 than 3.5 to 3.0.  3.5 should have been at most reprinted manuals with all the published errata compiled plus any new errata and clarifications; not rash changes to the core of the system.  Wait until the next true version comes out to implement lessons learned rather than do it as an update.  Frankly the cost doesn't concern me, and for awhile I considered buying my entire group new books, but I frankly was annoyed enough at the cash grab ploy by Hasbro that I did not.  If I want to do 3.5, the SRD will have to suffice.</blockquote>

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