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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Enerla" data-source="post: 4753458" data-attributes="member: 83246">Lets see the problems. Pro Torrent side "fading away" because criminals don't post type argument. ~ edited: Make your points without attacking other people please - PS~ About pirates party is small: Where such pirating works because court finds it legal there are people who try to support this, and there are both parties and other organizations to do so. Of course some people in such circles pirate, but some of them are just annoyed because US based companies try to stop them using the rights they pay a lot of money for. (And if this adds to any other anti USA feelings and they as concerned citizens will boycott american products then that can lead to a drop to GM sales in Europe... your economy needs that)The fact that they form a party for it, and can openly show with their name that they pirating shows, they don't have to fear legal consequnces for many good reasons.  But I doubt that in USA if you would form a party for people who only want to represent people who owns a gun, and everything that party does would involve questions around owning a gun, you would find them empty and void of values and void of values. Probably they wouldn't hit 1% without any focus on any real values. But it wouldn't make all americans who buy a gun a "wannabee murderer and a criminal" because what they do (possessing a gun) is illegal in many european countries, or would it? About honesty of WOTC in the case of supporting suppliers: Less money you spend online, more you can spend in local stores. If you need PDFs to make your books portable, searchable, etc. you need it. If you buy them for full cover price? You won't have money for hardcopy. If you get it for free? You will. If you say: People who support the game with a place to play, local demo groups, etc. can get a discount on books so their added exenses won't make them less competive, and this would help stores to compere with Amazon, and they would make sure PDFs don't get a cent away from these stores BUT all PDFs would send people to the stores (since books would have registration data to register books for D&D Insider, CB, for official events, etc. and they would encourage you to buy hardcopies since it protects your eyes) that would be a sign of support for small stores.So far only Wizards say: Better if you pay for a subscribtion fee, instead of spending your money at a local store, and if you want to ue notebook for DMing, you better pay inflated price (preferably tied with subscribtion) even if it means you won't have money left to support your local store. You can guess how much it helps local stores. Claiming that they care about them when they make their decisions we all know? You can see how much honesty they have.They claim that piracy means: less pdfs sold, since their book obviously sold in good numbers and wouldn't sell any more copies without repring now, and so on. But come on: By shutting down PDF sales, will they sell more PDFs?  Can they get more PDF sales this way?  But with no 3.5E supplies offered right now, people won't recommend buying 3.5E products and combining them with Pathfinder RPG, they can move distribution platform to D&D insider and get more profits (and less competition) this way.</blockquote>

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