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<blockquote data-quote="Fanaelialae" data-source="post: 5096546" data-attributes="member: 53980">You don't need to eliminate stat increases, just scaling of attack and defenses derived thereof.&nbsp; In other words, if a fighter started with an 18 Str but increased it to 20, he'd still only get a +4 to hit (though increasing damage to +5 would be fine).&nbsp; Under most circumstances, the attack bonus and defenses you start with remain the same for the life of the character.&nbsp; The only exceptions would be class bonuses, such as that granted by the Kensai paragon path.&nbsp; Needless to say, Expertise really isn't appropriate in conjunction with this house rule (if allowed at all, it should be limited to a flat +1).You also want to change the mechanic for Escape, since otherwise it'd be too easy.&nbsp; The simplest way is that instead of being based off Acrobatics/Athletics, it's instead based off non-scaling Strength or Dexterity modifier.An idea I've been playing with is divorcing ability scores entirely from attack and defenses.&nbsp; The gist (I don't have my notes at the moment) is that you have 13 points to distribute among the following 4 categories: Attack / AC &amp; Reflex / Fortitude / Willpower.&nbsp; These replace your relevant ability score modifiers.&nbsp; From there, you either follow the non-scaling option (and reduce monster attack and defenses appropriately) or scale at a rate you find appropriate (I like +1 every level except 1, 11 and 21, but that's replacing all scaling elements including enhancement/inherent bonuses).&nbsp; Of course, this does eliminate a bit of variety overall (such as the Shielding Swordmage who's terrible at OAs).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Fanaelialae, post: 5096546, member: 53980"] You don't need to eliminate stat increases, just scaling of attack and defenses derived thereof. In other words, if a fighter started with an 18 Str but increased it to 20, he'd still only get a +4 to hit (though increasing damage to +5 would be fine). Under most circumstances, the attack bonus and defenses you start with remain the same for the life of the character. The only exceptions would be class bonuses, such as that granted by the Kensai paragon path. Needless to say, Expertise really isn't appropriate in conjunction with this house rule (if allowed at all, it should be limited to a flat +1). You also want to change the mechanic for Escape, since otherwise it'd be too easy. The simplest way is that instead of being based off Acrobatics/Athletics, it's instead based off non-scaling Strength or Dexterity modifier. An idea I've been playing with is divorcing ability scores entirely from attack and defenses. The gist (I don't have my notes at the moment) is that you have 13 points to distribute among the following 4 categories: Attack / AC & Reflex / Fortitude / Willpower. These replace your relevant ability score modifiers. From there, you either follow the non-scaling option (and reduce monster attack and defenses appropriately) or scale at a rate you find appropriate (I like +1 every level except 1, 11 and 21, but that's replacing all scaling elements including enhancement/inherent bonuses). Of course, this does eliminate a bit of variety overall (such as the Shielding Swordmage who's terrible at OAs). [/QUOTE]

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