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<blockquote data-quote="N0Man" data-source="post: 4831455" data-attributes="member: 64066">1) What's so special about a &quot;Staff&quot; that separates it from a &quot;Quarterstaff&quot; (which is of the group &quot;Staff&quot;, and of the same weight and gold, and does the same damage)?2) If &quot;you can use implement powers without an implement, and wielding a non-magical implement confers no benefit&quot;, then is there a difference between using a non-magical quarterstaff and a non-magical staff?3) If there is a difference, does that mean that if you buy a non-magical orb, rod, or tome from Ye Old General Store, that each of those items must also each have a tag saying, &quot;Implement&quot; or they don't count as implements either?4) Does a Cleric have to use a Holy Symbol that is specifically a Holy Symbol Implement?5) If both a &quot;Pact Blade&quot; are both specifically designed items that are specially made to be implements, why does the PHB italicize &quot;pact blade&quot; (to emphasize that it's a special dagger) and explicitly say it is &quot;a special magic dagger&quot;, while never mentioning that a &quot;Staff&quot; is a special &quot;staff&quot; or (or italicizing, captalizing, etc.)4) Does Eladrin Sword Wizardy require a special &quot;implement long sword&quot;?5) Sorcerers use &quot;daggers and staffs&quot; for implements.&nbsp; Does the Sorcerer have to use special &quot;implement daggers&quot; as well?6) If the Sorcerer can use any standard magical dagger, does this mean that they have to follow different rules for &quot;staffs&quot; than &quot;daggers&quot;?7) Does the Swordmage need a special &quot;implement light blade&quot; or &quot;implement heavy blade&quot; too?8) If you compare the purchase costs of a magical &quot;implement staff&quot; with the costs of a magical &quot;weapon staff&quot;, aren't they exactly the same, and furthermore doesn't an &quot;implement staff&quot; function in every way like the &quot;weapon staff&quot; for the same price, but with the advantage of also being an implement?9) If 6 is true, then why would anyone ever make a magical staff that wasn't an implement?&nbsp; It doesn't cost any extra, and there no other change, then why would anyone ever make a magical staff that also wasn't usable as an implement?10) Can you upgrade a magical weapon staff into a magical implement staff using Enchant Ritual?&nbsp; Would the cost be 0?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="N0Man, post: 4831455, member: 64066"] 1) What's so special about a "Staff" that separates it from a "Quarterstaff" (which is of the group "Staff", and of the same weight and gold, and does the same damage)? 2) If "you can use implement powers without an implement, and wielding a non-magical implement confers no benefit", then is there a difference between using a non-magical quarterstaff and a non-magical staff? 3) If there is a difference, does that mean that if you buy a non-magical orb, rod, or tome from Ye Old General Store, that each of those items must also each have a tag saying, "Implement" or they don't count as implements either? 4) Does a Cleric have to use a Holy Symbol that is specifically a Holy Symbol Implement? 5) If both a "Pact Blade" are both specifically designed items that are specially made to be implements, why does the PHB italicize "pact blade" (to emphasize that it's a special dagger) and explicitly say it is "a special magic dagger", while never mentioning that a "Staff" is a special "staff" or (or italicizing, captalizing, etc.) 4) Does Eladrin Sword Wizardy require a special "implement long sword"? 5) Sorcerers use "daggers and staffs" for implements. Does the Sorcerer have to use special "implement daggers" as well? 6) If the Sorcerer can use any standard magical dagger, does this mean that they have to follow different rules for "staffs" than "daggers"? 7) Does the Swordmage need a special "implement light blade" or "implement heavy blade" too? 8) If you compare the purchase costs of a magical "implement staff" with the costs of a magical "weapon staff", aren't they exactly the same, and furthermore doesn't an "implement staff" function in every way like the "weapon staff" for the same price, but with the advantage of also being an implement? 9) If 6 is true, then why would anyone ever make a magical staff that wasn't an implement? It doesn't cost any extra, and there no other change, then why would anyone ever make a magical staff that also wasn't usable as an implement? 10) Can you upgrade a magical weapon staff into a magical implement staff using Enchant Ritual? Would the cost be 0? [/QUOTE]

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