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<blockquote data-quote="Animal" data-source="post: 2858912" data-attributes="member: 40328">sorry guys, but we must have different monster manuals. in my book it says that minotaurs have +2 level adjustment. am i missing something?DM's greedy. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> he says if we don't rely on high-powered items it'll help us make really diehard hardcore builds.thanks you all for interesting suggestions. i liked pixie rogue at first, but i must agree that he is just too frail. he'd be very hard to hit, but if hit he'd die instantly. on the other hand he is very versatile and if played carefully can outlive any encounter. i'm still considering it, sneak attacker, heavy poison user, maybe with some levels of sorc and arcane trickster? speaking about minotaurs and half-ogres barbarians, those are very single-purposed builds. they have a lot of HP and deal a lot of physical punishment but they are pwned by any caster of comparable level. they're good at killing, but not very good at surviving. spellcasters are much better, having not only damaging and field-control spells, but also capable of retreating instantly if odds of battle do not favour them.Iku Rex, of course i'm interested. i like the idea of shapechanging. i'd be grateful if you posted some of your builds. i'd go with sorc+draconic poly. szilard, no PHBII please. we consider it to be totally broken. and until errata is published we agreed not to touch this herecy. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Animal, post: 2858912, member: 40328"] sorry guys, but we must have different monster manuals. in my book it says that minotaurs have +2 level adjustment. am i missing something? DM's greedy. :) he says if we don't rely on high-powered items it'll help us make really diehard hardcore builds. thanks you all for interesting suggestions. i liked pixie rogue at first, but i must agree that he is just too frail. he'd be very hard to hit, but if hit he'd die instantly. on the other hand he is very versatile and if played carefully can outlive any encounter. i'm still considering it, sneak attacker, heavy poison user, maybe with some levels of sorc and arcane trickster? speaking about minotaurs and half-ogres barbarians, those are very single-purposed builds. they have a lot of HP and deal a lot of physical punishment but they are pwned by any caster of comparable level. they're good at killing, but not very good at surviving. spellcasters are much better, having not only damaging and field-control spells, but also capable of retreating instantly if odds of battle do not favour them. Iku Rex, of course i'm interested. i like the idea of shapechanging. i'd be grateful if you posted some of your builds. i'd go with sorc+draconic poly. szilard, no PHBII please. we consider it to be totally broken. and until errata is published we agreed not to touch this herecy. :) [/QUOTE]

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