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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6073193" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>Sure. There's no wrong way to call it, much to 5e's credit. I'd maybe go Dex vs. Dex myself (reaction time vs. reaction time!), but whatever makes sense to you (or your DM) is probably right for you (or them). </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But you don't tell them how to act. Metaphysically, they are not under your control. You are not taking away their ability to make choices. Even if such choices are limited by their own processing skills/perception, they are not removed. The behavior is not mechanistic in the way that a shove is. </p><p></p><p>And for D&D, I believe it's pretty key to keep decisions of characters in the hands of the players. Saying "I slip past her guard!" is fine. Saying "She does not guard me" is less fine. This bangs onto the idea of actor-and-director stances mentioned <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/content.php?409-Metaphor-and-Meta-Game&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter" target="_blank">here</a>, to a degree: an actor doesn't dictate the actions of other performers, they react to them. If someone is laying down some defense on you, you don't contradict that, you work with it by saying something about yourself: You're skilled enough to cut through it, if you make this check. That doesn't mean they weren't laying down the D, it just means they lacked the skills necessary to keep it up against you this time.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 6073193, member: 2067"] Sure. There's no wrong way to call it, much to 5e's credit. I'd maybe go Dex vs. Dex myself (reaction time vs. reaction time!), but whatever makes sense to you (or your DM) is probably right for you (or them). But you don't tell them how to act. Metaphysically, they are not under your control. You are not taking away their ability to make choices. Even if such choices are limited by their own processing skills/perception, they are not removed. The behavior is not mechanistic in the way that a shove is. And for D&D, I believe it's pretty key to keep decisions of characters in the hands of the players. Saying "I slip past her guard!" is fine. Saying "She does not guard me" is less fine. This bangs onto the idea of actor-and-director stances mentioned [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/content.php?409-Metaphor-and-Meta-Game&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter"]here[/URL], to a degree: an actor doesn't dictate the actions of other performers, they react to them. If someone is laying down some defense on you, you don't contradict that, you work with it by saying something about yourself: You're skilled enough to cut through it, if you make this check. That doesn't mean they weren't laying down the D, it just means they lacked the skills necessary to keep it up against you this time. [/QUOTE]
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