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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Andor" data-source="post: 4447265" data-attributes="member: 1879">If by fighter you mean only the fighter class and the core feats then yes they were kinda limited. If you expand fighter to include 'guys who hit things with sword' and include CW and PHB II and (especially) Bo9S then there is plenty to do with them in 3e.Likewise rituals are nice but the Invocation rules from 3e beat them hollow and were there first.But this is a 'What do you like about 4e' thread so:At will powers, for the options they present to the set of default actions. The concise flavorfullness present in the racial powers.Unlocking monster HP from level.Flattening the power growth curve.Unfortunately my giant bugaboo with 4e remains it's abstractness. What the heck does Bolstering Stike do? What does it look like to someone next to that Paladin? I find it hard to immerse myself in character when I don't know what the world looks like through that character's eyes.</blockquote>