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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 4449853" data-attributes="member: 22779">Again, that's fair.&nbsp; Your playstyle and all.&nbsp; But, to me, the idea that single die rolls can change the fight from &quot;Regular&quot; to &quot;Extra Lethal&quot; is bad.&nbsp; I found 3e combat FAR too lethal.&nbsp; I was killing PC's, using standard EL=Party Level encounters most of the time, about 1 time every three sessions.&nbsp; That's WAY too much.&nbsp; 80 sessions, 27 PC deaths.&nbsp; It really sucked the fun out of the campaign.Not really when you think about it.&nbsp; PC's will fight hundreds of fights before the end of a campaign.&nbsp; Most baddies fight one.&nbsp; The very rare one gets to fight a couple.&nbsp; So, when the baddie goes down to a lucky crit, great.&nbsp; But, the PC's have to get luck EVERY SINGLE TIME.&nbsp; Or they die.And, let's not forget, an equal CR creature can most likely kill a PC with a single full attack.&nbsp; Never mind crits or other effects.&nbsp; Many, many creatures can simply down you with straight up damage.&nbsp; Two rounds MAX.&nbsp; Like I said, I found 3e combat far and away too lethal.&nbsp; I put in Action Points in my next campaign specifically to limit this.&nbsp; I know in the last campaign we played in, we would have seen at least 3 PC deaths in 5 sessions, all against level appropriate encounters, if it hadn't been for Action Points saving them.&nbsp; I agree that combat should be uncertain.&nbsp; I disagree that the level of uncertainty should be THAT great.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 4449853, member: 22779"] Again, that's fair. Your playstyle and all. But, to me, the idea that single die rolls can change the fight from "Regular" to "Extra Lethal" is bad. I found 3e combat FAR too lethal. I was killing PC's, using standard EL=Party Level encounters most of the time, about 1 time every three sessions. That's WAY too much. 80 sessions, 27 PC deaths. It really sucked the fun out of the campaign. Not really when you think about it. PC's will fight hundreds of fights before the end of a campaign. Most baddies fight one. The very rare one gets to fight a couple. So, when the baddie goes down to a lucky crit, great. But, the PC's have to get luck EVERY SINGLE TIME. Or they die. And, let's not forget, an equal CR creature can most likely kill a PC with a single full attack. Never mind crits or other effects. Many, many creatures can simply down you with straight up damage. Two rounds MAX. Like I said, I found 3e combat far and away too lethal. I put in Action Points in my next campaign specifically to limit this. I know in the last campaign we played in, we would have seen at least 3 PC deaths in 5 sessions, all against level appropriate encounters, if it hadn't been for Action Points saving them. I agree that combat should be uncertain. I disagree that the level of uncertainty should be THAT great. [/QUOTE]

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