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<blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 6050131">I always thought the &quot;points&quot; system was a nice way to pay for spells, but then I come from a long video-gaming background wherein most magic-users have some sort of energy-pool that they use to cast their spells.&nbsp; Spells-per-day simulates this to an extent, but not in a manner that I feel is very clear.If every spell was given a point-cost based on it's level(lets keep it simple, we've got 10 levels, each spell costs the amount of points from the level it's in) I think it would go a long way to making the Vancian system much less confusing.&nbsp; Metamagic feats would increase point costs, moving spells up &quot;spells levels&quot; to power them up would increase point costs, same with moving them down.&nbsp; Say, 2 points per level, and one extra point per level based on your int/wis/cha mod.&nbsp; If we keep the DDN style of capping at 20, then by 20th level a player has at best roughly 140 points to spend.&nbsp; While that seems like a lot, if a 10th level spell costs 10 points, that's only 14 spells, which should be able to be completely spent in a 20th level encounter.I dunno, the Vancian system as it has been in D&amp;D has always bothered the heck out of me because it seems to convoluted for no apparent benefit.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sunseeker, post: 6050131"] I always thought the "points" system was a nice way to pay for spells, but then I come from a long video-gaming background wherein most magic-users have some sort of energy-pool that they use to cast their spells. Spells-per-day simulates this to an extent, but not in a manner that I feel is very clear. If every spell was given a point-cost based on it's level(lets keep it simple, we've got 10 levels, each spell costs the amount of points from the level it's in) I think it would go a long way to making the Vancian system much less confusing. Metamagic feats would increase point costs, moving spells up "spells levels" to power them up would increase point costs, same with moving them down. Say, 2 points per level, and one extra point per level based on your int/wis/cha mod. If we keep the DDN style of capping at 20, then by 20th level a player has at best roughly 140 points to spend. While that seems like a lot, if a 10th level spell costs 10 points, that's only 14 spells, which should be able to be completely spent in a 20th level encounter. I dunno, the Vancian system as it has been in D&D has always bothered the heck out of me because it seems to convoluted for no apparent benefit. [/QUOTE]

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