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11th Lvl Wizard and Cleric OK to Take On Two Banshees?
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<blockquote data-quote="Guest 7037866" data-source="post: 9465551"><p>A lot depends on how the encounter happens. Encounter distance, terrain, foreknowledge of the banshees, even knowing what a banshee is or can do, etc. Also, what magic or other bonuses the PCs might have for their CON saves since neither class is proficient. Of course, what spells they have prepared will also influence the outcome.</p><p></p><p>If the cleric survives the wail, turning can help, The banshees will likely face a DC 15 or 16 save, but have WIS +2. So there is a good chance at least one will fail.</p><p></p><p>If the Banshees win the initiative or have surprise, it is bleak for the PCs. At DC 13, both are looking at roughly a 50/50 chance (or worse) of failing the save (only 25% or so of making both saves!. With both banshees wailing, odds are drastically against them as at least one will likely fail and drop to 0 hp, and both might drop.</p><p></p><p>If either PC drops, the Banshees should act to kill the downed PC immediately. One banshee should wail first. If a PC drops, the other attacks the downed PC immediately and wails itself on the next round.</p><p></p><p>Honestly, by the numbers 11th level PCs would be a moderate encounter against 2 CR 4 (not CR 5 IIRC) creatures. If they save versus the wail, it should be an easy enough encounter. In some ways, a Banshee with a couple Will-o'-Wisps is even more scary. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guest 7037866, post: 9465551"] A lot depends on how the encounter happens. Encounter distance, terrain, foreknowledge of the banshees, even knowing what a banshee is or can do, etc. Also, what magic or other bonuses the PCs might have for their CON saves since neither class is proficient. Of course, what spells they have prepared will also influence the outcome. If the cleric survives the wail, turning can help, The banshees will likely face a DC 15 or 16 save, but have WIS +2. So there is a good chance at least one will fail. If the Banshees win the initiative or have surprise, it is bleak for the PCs. At DC 13, both are looking at roughly a 50/50 chance (or worse) of failing the save (only 25% or so of making both saves!. With both banshees wailing, odds are drastically against them as at least one will likely fail and drop to 0 hp, and both might drop. If either PC drops, the Banshees should act to kill the downed PC immediately. One banshee should wail first. If a PC drops, the other attacks the downed PC immediately and wails itself on the next round. Honestly, by the numbers 11th level PCs would be a moderate encounter against 2 CR 4 (not CR 5 IIRC) creatures. If they save versus the wail, it should be an easy enough encounter. In some ways, a Banshee with a couple Will-o'-Wisps is even more scary. ;) [/QUOTE]
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