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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 4968794" data-attributes="member: 22779">Don't forget the or that statement.&nbsp; It's permanently deprive the owner of the possession, use OR benefit of his property.By making an IP freely available without permission, you are depriving someone of the benefit of his property.&nbsp; While he may still have possession of it, it's now worth less than it was before, thus you are directly depriving him of the value (or benefit) of his property.DannyA, I really wish you would stop posting.&nbsp; I can't keep giving you posrep.&nbsp; The damn system just won't let me.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />BTW, if you are making 10 bucks an hour, isn't that poverty line in the US?&nbsp; The average income is now 25 bucks an hour (50 k per year).&nbsp; But, yeah, the fine is stiff.Bloody good.&nbsp; I have zero sympathy for these guys.&nbsp; It's not like it's a big secret not to scan a book and put it on a torrent.&nbsp; Gee shock.&nbsp; Oh noes, surprise it's bad and you get your ass sued off.&nbsp; Duh.&nbsp; I've made it a standard practice in my games that someone in the group MUST own a book before it gets used.&nbsp; Used to be I had to own the book before it could be used at the table because I absolutely will not allow people to use downloaded content.&nbsp; I trust my players now (I play online, so I don't get to see anyone face to face) so, I've relaxed the standards a bit.But, come on.&nbsp; We post on En World.&nbsp; Daily we talk to the people who are getting ripped off.&nbsp; Whether it's someone from WOTC, or Erik Mona, or jim pinto, we talk to these guys.&nbsp; They aren't some faceless executive.&nbsp; Many of us have met these guys in person.But we're still going to stand here and try to defend piracy?&nbsp; Damn, that's cold.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 4968794, member: 22779"] Don't forget the [b]or[/b] that statement. It's permanently deprive the owner of the possession, use [b]OR[/b] benefit of his property. By making an IP freely available without permission, you are depriving someone of the benefit of his property. While he may still have possession of it, it's now worth less than it was before, thus you are directly depriving him of the value (or benefit) of his property. DannyA, I really wish you would stop posting. I can't keep giving you posrep. The damn system just won't let me. :D BTW, if you are making 10 bucks an hour, isn't that poverty line in the US? The average income is now 25 bucks an hour (50 k per year). But, yeah, the fine is stiff. Bloody good. I have zero sympathy for these guys. It's not like it's a big secret not to scan a book and put it on a torrent. Gee shock. Oh noes, surprise it's bad and you get your ass sued off. Duh. I've made it a standard practice in my games that someone in the group MUST own a book before it gets used. Used to be I had to own the book before it could be used at the table because I absolutely will not allow people to use downloaded content. I trust my players now (I play online, so I don't get to see anyone face to face) so, I've relaxed the standards a bit. But, come on. We post on En World. Daily we talk to the people who are getting ripped off. Whether it's someone from WOTC, or Erik Mona, or jim pinto, we talk to these guys. They aren't some faceless executive. Many of us have met these guys in person. But we're still going to stand here and try to defend piracy? Damn, that's cold. [/QUOTE]

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