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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheYeti1775" data-source="post: 4971856" data-attributes="member: 20914">Really I think we can all agree that neither side is going to readily change the mind of the other.So why not put it in this prespective.Before PDF's, books were pirated.During PDF sales, books were pirated.After PDF sales, books were pirated.See the theme there?  The PDF legal availability didn't matter, the pirating happened regardless.Though I would wager that during the time of sales of PDF's, pirating as a whole lost a good portion of their crowd.  As folks were given a legal means of procuring what they wanted.  And I'm betting the same ones that pirated before the sales but didn't during them, will go right back to pirating them again.It took what 8 days till the majority of users on this board could find the first book released after PDF's were discontinued.  Many of us found it within a day or two on a few specialized sites.  So this isn't an arguement either side will when.So how about we all sit down with a beverage of choice, roll 3d6 x6 and play a little old school DnD while this thread continues on for another 14 pages.</blockquote>