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<blockquote data-quote="kerbarian" data-source="post: 2995042" data-attributes="member: 40393">Here's a build to start it off (edited for rule changes):A 12th-level human cleric with the destruction domain.&nbsp; Initial stats Str 10, Dex 14, Con 10, Int 8, Wis 18, Cha 10.&nbsp; By L12, Wis is 21.Gear is boots of speed (12k), periapt of wisdom +6 (36k), full plate +4 (17.65k), heavy shield (.02k), ring of protection +3 (18k), cloak of resistance +2 (4k).Relevant feats:&nbsp; Spell penetration, greater spell penetration, spell focus (necromancy), greater spell focus (necromancy).Buffs in effect before the fight:&nbsp; Magic Vestment on the shield.During the fight:Round 1:&nbsp; Use boots of speed to run 100' up to the dragon.Rounds 2-5:&nbsp; Cast Harm.&nbsp; Attack bonus is +9 vs touch AC 9, so it will hit 95% of the time.&nbsp; The four 6th-level slots come from 2 (standard) + 1 (destruction domain) + 1 (high Wis).Caster level 12 + 4 (greater spell penetration) vs. SR 20 = 85% chance of beating SR.&nbsp; A 6th-level spell with Wis 26 and greater spell focus (necromancy) gives a will save DC of 26, which the dragon will fail 60% of the time.&nbsp; So the total damage per round is 120 * .95 * .85 * (.6 * .5 + .4) = 67.83.&nbsp; Four rounds of that is 271 damage.For the return attack:&nbsp; The cleric only has a Ref save of +8, so he fails the save vs. the breath weapon 70% of the time, and the average damage will be 6d6 * (.3 * .5 + .7) = 17.85.The cleric's AC is 10 + 1 (dex) + 12 (armor) + 5 (shield) + 3 (deflection) + 1 (haste) = 32.&nbsp; So the dragon's full attack deals:&nbsp; 2d6+6 * .65 + (1d8+3 + 1d8+3 + 1d6+3 + 1d6+3 + 1d8+9) * .4 = 25.05.So after the breath weapon and two full attacks, the cleric has taken 17.85 + 25.05 * 2 = 68 damage.Final score is 271 - 68 = 203.Hmm... after going through all that, this may require too much effort to get many responses.&nbsp; We'll see, though.&nbsp; I always enjoy working through this stuff.&nbsp; Maybe other people do, too.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kerbarian, post: 2995042, member: 40393"] Here's a build to start it off (edited for rule changes): A 12th-level human cleric with the destruction domain. Initial stats Str 10, Dex 14, Con 10, Int 8, Wis 18, Cha 10. By L12, Wis is 21. Gear is boots of speed (12k), periapt of wisdom +6 (36k), full plate +4 (17.65k), heavy shield (.02k), ring of protection +3 (18k), cloak of resistance +2 (4k). Relevant feats: Spell penetration, greater spell penetration, spell focus (necromancy), greater spell focus (necromancy). Buffs in effect before the fight: Magic Vestment on the shield. During the fight: Round 1: Use boots of speed to run 100' up to the dragon. Rounds 2-5: Cast Harm. Attack bonus is +9 vs touch AC 9, so it will hit 95% of the time. The four 6th-level slots come from 2 (standard) + 1 (destruction domain) + 1 (high Wis). Caster level 12 + 4 (greater spell penetration) vs. SR 20 = 85% chance of beating SR. A 6th-level spell with Wis 26 and greater spell focus (necromancy) gives a will save DC of 26, which the dragon will fail 60% of the time. So the total damage per round is 120 * .95 * .85 * (.6 * .5 + .4) = 67.83. Four rounds of that is 271 damage. For the return attack: The cleric only has a Ref save of +8, so he fails the save vs. the breath weapon 70% of the time, and the average damage will be 6d6 * (.3 * .5 + .7) = 17.85. The cleric's AC is 10 + 1 (dex) + 12 (armor) + 5 (shield) + 3 (deflection) + 1 (haste) = 32. So the dragon's full attack deals: 2d6+6 * .65 + (1d8+3 + 1d8+3 + 1d6+3 + 1d6+3 + 1d8+9) * .4 = 25.05. So after the breath weapon and two full attacks, the cleric has taken 17.85 + 25.05 * 2 = 68 damage. Final score is 271 - 68 = 203. Hmm... after going through all that, this may require too much effort to get many responses. We'll see, though. I always enjoy working through this stuff. Maybe other people do, too. [/QUOTE]

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