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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5507069" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Let's look at a simple synergy.</p><p></p><p>Plate mail</p><p></p><p>Shield</p><p></p><p>Shield Specialization</p><p></p><p>+6 Agile Godplate (+3 from Dex) </p><p></p><p>A PC could acquire this at level 26.</p><p></p><p>This PC has an AC of +8 Plate +6 magic +6 masterwork +3 Dex +13 half level +2 shield +1 specialization = AC 49 (AC 51 at level 30)</p><p></p><p>AC 49 at level 26 is the same as AC 24 at level one (18 required to hit via same level foe).</p><p></p><p>AC 51 at level 30 is the same as AC 22 at level one (16 required to hit via same level foe).</p><p></p><p>1 or 2 feats (typically) and one specific magic item. That's just a minor synergy.</p><p></p><p>It's not what I would call paying a heavy price in other areas. A 16 Dex by level 24 is fairly cheap. 13 starting, +2 levels, +1 a single boost to Dex. And, a 16 Dex is desirable (i.e. +3 Reflex, +3 Init) anyway. Did he pay a small price? Sure. A heavy price? Not really.</p><p></p><p>And there are ways to get this higher. And there are other non-plate builds that can get higher as well.</p><p></p><p>Now, how exactly could a PC get to AC 51 (or higher) with the core rules? We're talking a single item here outside of core.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 5507069, member: 2011"] Let's look at a simple synergy. Plate mail Shield Shield Specialization +6 Agile Godplate (+3 from Dex) A PC could acquire this at level 26. This PC has an AC of +8 Plate +6 magic +6 masterwork +3 Dex +13 half level +2 shield +1 specialization = AC 49 (AC 51 at level 30) AC 49 at level 26 is the same as AC 24 at level one (18 required to hit via same level foe). AC 51 at level 30 is the same as AC 22 at level one (16 required to hit via same level foe). 1 or 2 feats (typically) and one specific magic item. That's just a minor synergy. It's not what I would call paying a heavy price in other areas. A 16 Dex by level 24 is fairly cheap. 13 starting, +2 levels, +1 a single boost to Dex. And, a 16 Dex is desirable (i.e. +3 Reflex, +3 Init) anyway. Did he pay a small price? Sure. A heavy price? Not really. And there are ways to get this higher. And there are other non-plate builds that can get higher as well. Now, how exactly could a PC get to AC 51 (or higher) with the core rules? We're talking a single item here outside of core. [/QUOTE]
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