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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 6320508" data-attributes="member: 5143">Here's the deal though.  You don't hit with every attack.  You miss with a bunch of them.  So, let's say you hit 50% of the time.  The numbers I was using were that someone with a greatsword and 20 strength would do 12 damage on average.  13 with the sword.  That's an 8% increase.  I was assuming the party would hand the sword to a max strength fighter who does the most damage.However, the percentage increase is not really an important number.  A +1 bonus to someone who only does 1d4 damage per around is a 40% increase.  If they needed 20s to hit than with the increase in accuracy it is a 180% increase in overall damage.  But that number is irrelevant.  That doesn't increase the party's damage 180%.  It doesn't make the monsters that much easier to defeat.  The 3.5 damage that now happens once in every 10 rounds is not going to make any difference to the fight at all.  Or to the campaign at all.In fact, if we assume the party does about 10 damage each for 4 other party members plus this loser who can't hit anything and does nearly no damage, it means that in 10 rounds, the party does 400 points of damage(and would have done 401.25 damage if this guy didn't have the +1 weapon) and this character now does 3.5 damage.  That means that the weapon has increased the damage output of the party by 0.56%Let's say they do the smart thing and give it to the BEST party member.  Let's assume before the weapon they get +7 to hit and need to hit AC 12.  They do 2d6+5(12) points of damage normally.  The rest of the party does 10 damage a piece like before.  That means that before the magic weapon the party did 496 damage in 10 rounds.   After the magic weapon they now do 510.5 in 10 rounds.  Which is an increase of 2.92%.If we assume the rest of the party is worse and only does 5 damage a round then it is 296 damage to 310.5.  Which is a 4.98% increase.Let's assume they are all really bad and do only 1 damage a round except for this min-maxed fighter.  136 initial damage vs 150.0 after the weapon.  That's a 10.66% increase in overall damage.However, despite the 11% increase in damage, it still only lets them do about 1.4 more damage per round.  Which let's them kill an extra Zombie(9 hp) every 6.4 rounds or so that they couldn't have without the weapon.  In other words, in 6 rounds they could have killed 9 zombies without the weapon.  With the weapon, they can kill 10.  And that's assuming an almost best case scenario for how much the weapon helps the party.As the monster's hitpoints increase, the weapon helps less and less since 1.4 extra damage per round matters less when you are attempting to reduce 50 hitpoints than it does when you are trying to reduce 10.  Since only damage that reduces an enemy to 0 matters, and it would take 30+ rounds for that extra damage to reduce one of the new enemies to 0.  Extra attacks help to balance this effect out.  However, a Fighter gets 4 attacks at max level(4 times more extra damage) but most 1st level monsters are around 10 hitpoints while 20th level ones are around 200.  20 times more hitpoints.  So, as you go up levels your weapon increases your power less and less.</blockquote>

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