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<blockquote data-quote="mmu1" data-source="post: 787236" data-attributes="member: 319">These guys took down two dragons and a powerful spellcaster? Where did those reside, in a retirement home for disabled BBEGs? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />What kind of a 14th level arcane caster walks into a dragon's lair (abandoned or not) without Stoneskin on? How does a 17th level cleric die from a single round of attacks? Where were their spells that don't give saves? I DM a party with an 11th level sorcerer, and he never walks anymore - anywhere - he Flies... He could have Magic Missiled the little runt to death (while Improved Invisible) all by himself.For that matter, how did they miss the DC 22 listen check? They should have been able to make it easily just Taking 10.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="mmu1, post: 787236, member: 319"] These guys took down [i]two[/i] dragons and a powerful spellcaster? Where did those reside, in a retirement home for disabled BBEGs? ;) What kind of a 14th level arcane caster walks into a dragon's lair (abandoned or not) without Stoneskin on? How does a 17th level cleric die from a single round of attacks? Where were their spells that don't give saves? I DM a party with an 11th level sorcerer, and he never walks anymore - anywhere - he Flies... He could have Magic Missiled the little runt to death (while Improved Invisible) all by himself. For that matter, how did they miss the DC 22 listen check? They should have been able to make it easily just Taking 10. [/QUOTE]

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