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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ced1106" data-source="post: 791080" data-attributes="member: 7551">Not a big fan of "teaching the **players** a lesson" camp, not that I haven't done that myself. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt="(:" title="Smile    (:"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname="(:" /> Might want to pick up Johnn Four's NPC Essentials -- that goblin would have made a very good archenemy. The Hero's Snare PDF is a **very** good, but not TPK, method of telling players not to underestimate their opponent's. It's about a kobold lair and it's for 7th-8th level characters...!Cedric.aka. Washu! ^O^</blockquote>