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<blockquote data-quote="Betote" data-source="post: 4535124" data-attributes="member: 52055"><p>My first D&D was AD&D 2e, and I loathed it. It was just a bunch of rules that made no sense, and everything working so differently was very clunky. Also, it felt very cartoony to me.</p><p></p><p>When 3e came out, I didn't fear I would like it less than 2e... It was nearly impossible! And what I found was a streamlined version of Rolemaster. I kinda liked it, but I was more into rules-light games back then (I mostly ran Fudge or Risus, with the occasional Call of Cthulhu). The game wasn't bad (although still a bit clunky for my tastes), but it wasn't until I came upon an issue of the Dungeon Magazine (the one with "the Devil Cage" module) that I dared to run it. I loved it, it was a very streamlined although very complete system. People kept saying it was a total mess in the higher levels, but I have yet to run an adventure with PCs above 7th level, so it was something that happened to other people.</p><p></p><p>Then the announcement of 4e came out. I was utterly uninspired by its first previews, and the designers saying it had so much to do with Bo9S and Star Wars Saga Edition (two books I don't like ruleswise) made me even more leery. Now it's out, and it isn't half as bad as I had feared. Nevertheless, For my campaign games I prefer more detail and less "gamisms", so 3.x (now PFRG) is still my campaign game of choice. But it was never a matter of "3.x or other edition". It was 3.x against RuneQuest, Rolemaster or, perhaps, Warhammer.</p><p></p><p>Now, for pick-up games, I have two choices depending on what I want to run. If I'm more onto roleplaaying and make-believe, I take my RC or LL. If I want to go dungeon bashing, I take 4e. And if I don't want dungeon fantasy, there are still a lot more games out there (I have a burning desire to try out Dark Heresy, and I have a cliffhanger on a "Lost meets the Cthulhu Mythos" game that I plan to put and end to someday).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Betote, post: 4535124, member: 52055"] My first D&D was AD&D 2e, and I loathed it. It was just a bunch of rules that made no sense, and everything working so differently was very clunky. Also, it felt very cartoony to me. When 3e came out, I didn't fear I would like it less than 2e... It was nearly impossible! And what I found was a streamlined version of Rolemaster. I kinda liked it, but I was more into rules-light games back then (I mostly ran Fudge or Risus, with the occasional Call of Cthulhu). The game wasn't bad (although still a bit clunky for my tastes), but it wasn't until I came upon an issue of the Dungeon Magazine (the one with "the Devil Cage" module) that I dared to run it. I loved it, it was a very streamlined although very complete system. People kept saying it was a total mess in the higher levels, but I have yet to run an adventure with PCs above 7th level, so it was something that happened to other people. Then the announcement of 4e came out. I was utterly uninspired by its first previews, and the designers saying it had so much to do with Bo9S and Star Wars Saga Edition (two books I don't like ruleswise) made me even more leery. Now it's out, and it isn't half as bad as I had feared. Nevertheless, For my campaign games I prefer more detail and less "gamisms", so 3.x (now PFRG) is still my campaign game of choice. But it was never a matter of "3.x or other edition". It was 3.x against RuneQuest, Rolemaster or, perhaps, Warhammer. Now, for pick-up games, I have two choices depending on what I want to run. If I'm more onto roleplaaying and make-believe, I take my RC or LL. If I want to go dungeon bashing, I take 4e. And if I don't want dungeon fantasy, there are still a lot more games out there (I have a burning desire to try out Dark Heresy, and I have a cliffhanger on a "Lost meets the Cthulhu Mythos" game that I plan to put and end to someday). [/QUOTE]
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