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<blockquote data-quote="Nebulous" data-source="post: 4729549" data-attributes="member: 31465">Thanks fissionessence, you made a good 4e equivalent.&nbsp; For my own game i think i might take what you did and blend back in some of the old restrictions and advantages, just for flavor.&nbsp; That flavor is something i'm missing from 4e magic in general. Pilfer Dweomer might only work if we look at monster level and PC level, and then leave it up to DM abjudication if the spell being pilfered is actually an arcane power or not. For example, stealing the shocking pulse from a warcaster would count, but not the death gaze from a bodak.&nbsp; But then you have to consider, can you steal at-wills, encounters or dailies (well, monsters don't dailies).I was thinking that instead of pilfering a spell, you might just suppress a monster's at will magic for a few rounds, or until save ends.&nbsp; Until then, you can cast that power as your own, but that results in a automatic save.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nebulous, post: 4729549, member: 31465"] Thanks fissionessence, you made a good 4e equivalent. For my own game i think i might take what you did and blend back in some of the old restrictions and advantages, just for flavor. That flavor is something i'm missing from 4e magic in general. Pilfer Dweomer might only work if we look at monster level and PC level, and then leave it up to DM abjudication if the spell being pilfered is actually an arcane power or not. For example, stealing the shocking pulse from a warcaster would count, but not the death gaze from a bodak. But then you have to consider, can you steal at-wills, encounters or dailies (well, monsters don't dailies). I was thinking that instead of pilfering a spell, you might just suppress a monster's at will magic for a few rounds, or until save ends. Until then, you can cast that power as your own, but that results in a automatic save. [/QUOTE]

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