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<blockquote data-quote="Nikosandros" data-source="post: 4529954" data-attributes="member: 7993">I actually disagree about many of those points.In AD&amp;D multiclass characters have all the powers from their classes. That's very different from 4e system.XP from monsters is a small contribution in AD&amp;D. XP from treasure is actually scaled down when the challenge was easy.Well, they are truncated only when compared to the bloat of 3rd edition. They are still quite big.I agree.Saving throws are very different in 4e, however. The chance of success is flat and does not depend on class, level and ability score. They mostly represent durations excepts in few cases.Magic items are listed in the PHB. Players are encouraged to come up with wish list... quite different with how things work in AD&amp;D.I agree on both points.&nbsp;Yes, the scale in an abstract unit is there in both games.Well, combats in my 4e games are exceedingly long... once again very different from my experience with AD&amp;D.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nikosandros, post: 4529954, member: 7993"] I actually disagree about many of those points. In AD&D multiclass characters have all the powers from their classes. That's very different from 4e system. XP from monsters is a small contribution in AD&D. XP from treasure is actually scaled down when the challenge was easy. Well, they are truncated only when compared to the bloat of 3rd edition. They are still quite big. I agree. Saving throws are very different in 4e, however. The chance of success is flat and does not depend on class, level and ability score. They mostly represent durations excepts in few cases. Magic items are listed in the PHB. Players are encouraged to come up with wish list... quite different with how things work in AD&D. I agree on both points. Yes, the scale in an abstract unit is there in both games. Well, combats in my 4e games are exceedingly long... once again very different from my experience with AD&D. [/QUOTE]

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