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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 4530033" data-attributes="member: 18280">I think that this is exactly what is relevant here.3e moved very far from the orbit of its predecessors (and argument I made, and was booed down for, in a series of &quot;Sense of Wonder&quot; threads long before 4e was announced and the observation became popular).4e is a step away from some of the problems 3e caused.&nbsp; However, stepping away from 3e isn't the same thing as stepping toward 1e.&nbsp; There are a lot of roads away from 3e.While I agree that WotC has stepped away from 3e, I don't agree that the steps taken were in the direction of 1e.&nbsp; They are in a direction all of thier own, IMHO.&nbsp; That some of the results of those steps have consequences that are (very) superficially similiar to the results of the 1e rules isn't enough to make 4e seem like 1e to me.YMMV, of course.RC</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 4530033, member: 18280"] I think that this is exactly what is relevant here. 3e moved very far from the orbit of its predecessors (and argument I made, and was booed down for, in a series of "Sense of Wonder" threads long before 4e was announced and the observation became popular). 4e is a step away from [i][b]some[/b][/i][b][/b] of the problems 3e caused. However, stepping away from 3e isn't the same thing as stepping toward 1e. There are a lot of roads away from 3e. While I agree that WotC has stepped away from 3e, I don't agree that the steps taken were in the direction of 1e. They are in a direction all of thier own, IMHO. That some of the [i][b]results[/b][/i][b][/b] of those steps have consequences that are (very) superficially similiar to the [I][B]results[/B][/I] of the 1e rules isn't enough to make 4e seem like 1e to me. YMMV, of course. RC [/QUOTE]

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