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<blockquote data-quote="Daedalus" data-source="post: 25292" data-attributes="member: 420">&gt;you might as well as throw in the bardic knowledge too.&nbsp; IIRC &gt;the 1e bard definitely had that ability.I was thinking that could be a class ability much like the standard 3e bard has currently&gt;perform: oratory is a good one.Thanks! I thought it would be appropriate for them&gt;what about spell list? (a combo of druid/bard spells)My 1e rules are a bit shakey, but I think bards cast as a druid of equivalent level up to level 12, so 10 in this case.&nbsp; I guess I would keep that mechanic but not give any bonus spells (don't want to take anything away from the actual druid class)&nbsp; I was thinking that in order to reflect their jack-of-all-tradeness, give them skill emphasis like wanderers in WoT or scoundrels in Star Wars.&gt;what's their purpose though? ... maybe a specialized arm of &gt;druid circles? ... or a prestige class that replaces the standard &gt;bard class in 3e? (do this and one for paladin that would be &gt;pretty cool)I don't know much about historical bards, but if I remember right there were druids, ovates and bards and each had different colored dress and served different functions basically for the same religion.&nbsp; I think =)I wouldn't want to replace the standard 3e bard, maybe rename it to troubador (sp) or something, and keep the bard as a prestige class...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Daedalus, post: 25292, member: 420"] >[B]you might as well as throw in the bardic knowledge too. IIRC >the 1e bard definitely had that ability. I was thinking that could be a class ability much like the standard 3e bard has currently >perform: oratory is a good one. Thanks! I thought it would be appropriate for them >what about spell list? (a combo of druid/bard spells) My 1e rules are a bit shakey, but I think bards cast as a druid of equivalent level up to level 12, so 10 in this case. I guess I would keep that mechanic but not give any bonus spells (don't want to take anything away from the actual druid class) I was thinking that in order to reflect their jack-of-all-tradeness, give them skill emphasis like wanderers in WoT or scoundrels in Star Wars. >what's their purpose though? ... maybe a specialized arm of >druid circles? ... or a prestige class that replaces the standard >bard class in 3e? (do this and one for paladin that would be >pretty cool) I don't know much about historical bards, but if I remember right there were druids, ovates and bards and each had different colored dress and served different functions basically for the same religion. I think =) I wouldn't want to replace the standard 3e bard, maybe rename it to troubador (sp) or something, and keep the bard as a prestige class...[/B] [/QUOTE]

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