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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5849203" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>I didn't say that it was. I'm sure you are a fair reporter of what's going on in your own game. I'm just asserting that there exists some game that contridicts your description of what is possible.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/167628-treasure-leveling-comparisons-ad-d1-b-ed-d-d-d3-updated-11-17-08-q1.html" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/167628-treasure-leveling-comparisons-ad-d1-b-ed-d-d-d3-updated-11-17-08-q1.html</a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So you are asserting that 1e combat, exploration, etc. always takes longer than 3e in the same scenario?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, it wasn't. It levels more quickly after name level, which is where 1e typically slows down. Although, even that isn't necessarily the case if the DM doesn't want it to slow down.</p><p></p><p>As documented in multiple threads, the exact same module converted to 3e yields very nearly the same levelling rate. And if we are to believe that 1e actually plays faster and has faster combats and doesn't bog down with skill checks and all the other assertions you make about your experience, then it follows that 3e probably levels up more slowly than 1e.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It isn't in 1e either. In fact, the 1e levelling rate depends entirely on the ratio of XP from monsters to XP from treasure. The higher the ratio of earned XP from treasure relative to monsters, the faster the 1e game levels. This ratio typically varies from ~1:1 (Monster Manual ratio) to ~2:1 (typical module) or even higher (certain adventure path type modules).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 5849203, member: 4937"] I didn't say that it was. I'm sure you are a fair reporter of what's going on in your own game. I'm just asserting that there exists some game that contridicts your description of what is possible. [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/167628-treasure-leveling-comparisons-ad-d1-b-ed-d-d-d3-updated-11-17-08-q1.html"]http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/167628-treasure-leveling-comparisons-ad-d1-b-ed-d-d-d3-updated-11-17-08-q1.html[/URL] So you are asserting that 1e combat, exploration, etc. always takes longer than 3e in the same scenario? No, it wasn't. It levels more quickly after name level, which is where 1e typically slows down. Although, even that isn't necessarily the case if the DM doesn't want it to slow down. As documented in multiple threads, the exact same module converted to 3e yields very nearly the same levelling rate. And if we are to believe that 1e actually plays faster and has faster combats and doesn't bog down with skill checks and all the other assertions you make about your experience, then it follows that 3e probably levels up more slowly than 1e. It isn't in 1e either. In fact, the 1e levelling rate depends entirely on the ratio of XP from monsters to XP from treasure. The higher the ratio of earned XP from treasure relative to monsters, the faster the 1e game levels. This ratio typically varies from ~1:1 (Monster Manual ratio) to ~2:1 (typical module) or even higher (certain adventure path type modules). [/QUOTE]
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