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<blockquote data-quote="Engilbrand" data-source="post: 4524828" data-attributes="member: 44184">I like how some people seem to be confused about simple topics.Person A: I think that 4th edition has brought back the feel of 1st edition.Person B: Your 1st edition games had 9000 Trolls with a billion hit points?Me: WTF?! Somebody obviously missed something.Feel and mechanics are not the same thing. My players, both in their 40s, consistently liken 4th edition to 1st edition because of the fact that they can do fun and tactically interesting things in combat. Whether it's in combat or out of combat, it &quot;feels&quot; like 1st edition for them. It's not all of the mechanics. It's the feel that the mechanics lend the game. Minion rules actually help to make a 1st edition feel to these players. It's not that the mechanics are like 1st edition. How is that still hard for some people to grasp? If the game doesn't feel good to you, then you're doing it wrong. If it doesn't feel like 1st edition, then you obviously have different memories of 1st edition than the many people who say that 4e reminds them of 1st. Get over it.I've also noticed that there have been a lot more posts about the old editions. I think that it's because a lot of people have gotten nostalgia because of the fun that they've been having with 4e. I've never played 1st edition, and I don't want to because mechanics are actually important to me and I don't want to deal with that system. I will say that one of my players told me on Friday that he thought that, mechanically, 4th edition was the best edition of D&amp;D because he thought that it actually did what D&amp;D was trying to do all along.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Engilbrand, post: 4524828, member: 44184"] I like how some people seem to be confused about simple topics. Person A: I think that 4th edition has brought back the feel of 1st edition. Person B: Your 1st edition games had 9000 Trolls with a billion hit points? Me: WTF?! Somebody obviously missed something. Feel and mechanics are not the same thing. My players, both in their 40s, consistently liken 4th edition to 1st edition because of the fact that they can do fun and tactically interesting things in combat. Whether it's in combat or out of combat, it "feels" like 1st edition for them. It's not all of the mechanics. It's the feel that the mechanics lend the game. Minion rules actually help to make a 1st edition feel to these players. It's not that the mechanics are like 1st edition. How is that still hard for some people to grasp? If the game doesn't feel good to you, then you're doing it wrong. If it doesn't feel like 1st edition, then you obviously have different memories of 1st edition than the many people who say that 4e reminds them of 1st. Get over it. I've also noticed that there have been a lot more posts about the old editions. I think that it's because a lot of people have gotten nostalgia because of the fun that they've been having with 4e. I've never played 1st edition, and I don't want to because mechanics are actually important to me and I don't want to deal with that system. I will say that one of my players told me on Friday that he thought that, mechanically, 4th edition was the best edition of D&D because he thought that it actually did what D&D was trying to do all along. [/QUOTE]

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