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<blockquote data-quote="Wisdom Penalty" data-source="post: 4525539" data-attributes="member: 13287">I agree with your friend. The ease of DMing, the freeform rules, and the relative elegant simplicity of the game all create a &quot;1E feel&quot; within a 4e game. Much more than could ever be captured in 3e.3e, to be fair, was certainly closer to 1e in terms of sacred cows and familiar terms.If one compares the editions subjectively, 4e is very close to 1e (or, rather, very much closer than 3e).If one compares the editions from familiar terms, 3e is very close to 1e (or, rather, very much closer than 4e).If one compares the editions in terms of rules mechanics, neither 3e nor 4e are &quot;close&quot; to 1e.Ergo, it comes down to what is fun for you. If it's the &quot;feel&quot; of 1e, then 4e is your cup of grog. If it's the familiar world and terms, then 3e is it.Actually, the best system to capture 1e feel and familiar tropes is, well, 1e. Barring that - 2e.Brilliant, eh? And that is why I'm not Intelligence Penalty.1E. It's the new 4E.Um, as an aside, I have a great amount of respect for those folks who stuck with 1e through thick and thin and still play it regularly. There is a very large part of me that would very much like to do just that. I think you'll also note that these folks, by and large, don't hurl dispersions at 3e or 4e players (though they might at 2e gamers). The 1e crowd just seems more - I don't know - mature and yet casual. 1E: Old s(c)h(ool).2E: Stepsons of the gaming world.3E: Fun to Play.4E: Fun to DM.WP</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wisdom Penalty, post: 4525539, member: 13287"] I agree with your friend. The ease of DMing, the freeform rules, and the relative elegant simplicity of the game all create a "1E feel" within a 4e game. Much more than could ever be captured in 3e. 3e, to be fair, was certainly closer to 1e in terms of sacred cows and familiar terms. If one compares the editions subjectively, 4e is very close to 1e (or, rather, very much closer than 3e). If one compares the editions from familiar terms, 3e is very close to 1e (or, rather, very much closer than 4e). If one compares the editions in terms of rules mechanics, neither 3e nor 4e are "close" to 1e. Ergo, it comes down to what is fun for you. If it's the "feel" of 1e, then 4e is your cup of grog. If it's the familiar world and terms, then 3e is it. Actually, the best system to capture 1e feel [i]and[/i] familiar tropes is, well, 1e. Barring that - 2e. Brilliant, eh? And [i]that[/i] is why I'm not Intelligence Penalty. [b]1E. It's the new 4E.[/b] Um, as an aside, I have a great amount of respect for those folks who stuck with 1e through thick and thin and still play it regularly. There is a very large part of me that would very much like to do just that. I think you'll also note that these folks, by and large, don't hurl dispersions at 3e or 4e players (though they might at 2e gamers). The 1e crowd just seems more - I don't know - mature and yet casual. 1E: Old s(c)h(ool). 2E: Stepsons of the gaming world. 3E: Fun to Play. 4E: Fun to DM. WP [/QUOTE]

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