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<blockquote data-quote="Zaruthustran" data-source="post: 3719712" data-attributes="member: 1457"><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p>Not sure if you're joking or not, but as you point out: it's not bloat if the base power level is set from the beginning. There's a REASON the commoners turn to the adventurers when the monsters attack, after all. Instead of Bob Rogue and Bob Expert both having 6 hit points, in 4E it's looking like a 1st level character will actually be tougher than the locals. Someone worth looking toward for help. </p><p></p><p>I imagine monsters will *not* all receive the same bump. Another anecdote was that <strong>they want to get away from the standard "four adventurers vs. one monster per encounter". They want the base encounter to instead be "four adventurers vs. four monsters per encounter".</strong></p><p></p><p> So, that tells me that monsters are punier. We'll see more mooks, more critters that are scary to commoners and a threat to adventurers only in groups. They'll save the big, single monsters for dramatic final encounters.</p><p></p><p>So all of the above says to me: 4E will be more like Aragorn, Gimli, Legolas, and Boromir vs. the orcs on Amon Hen, more like Inigo Montoya vs. the guards in Prince Humperdink's castle. More heroic fantasy, where PCs are mighty heroes cutting through swarms of foes.</p><p></p><p>Sounds good to me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zaruthustran, post: 3719712, member: 1457"] :) Not sure if you're joking or not, but as you point out: it's not bloat if the base power level is set from the beginning. There's a REASON the commoners turn to the adventurers when the monsters attack, after all. Instead of Bob Rogue and Bob Expert both having 6 hit points, in 4E it's looking like a 1st level character will actually be tougher than the locals. Someone worth looking toward for help. I imagine monsters will *not* all receive the same bump. Another anecdote was that [b]they want to get away from the standard "four adventurers vs. one monster per encounter". They want the base encounter to instead be "four adventurers vs. four monsters per encounter".[/b] So, that tells me that monsters are punier. We'll see more mooks, more critters that are scary to commoners and a threat to adventurers only in groups. They'll save the big, single monsters for dramatic final encounters. So all of the above says to me: 4E will be more like Aragorn, Gimli, Legolas, and Boromir vs. the orcs on Amon Hen, more like Inigo Montoya vs. the guards in Prince Humperdink's castle. More heroic fantasy, where PCs are mighty heroes cutting through swarms of foes. Sounds good to me. [/QUOTE]
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