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<blockquote data-quote="Traycor" data-source="post: 3721863" data-attributes="member: 54613"><p>This is fantastic news!</p><p></p><p>In 3E I hated how a first lvl char had the abilities of a hero, but couldn't back it up.</p><p></p><p>1st Example: lvl 1 fighter is proficient in all martial and simple weapons. That's 30-40 weapons plus training in all types of armor and shields. Does anyone here know someone proficient in 40 different weapons?! I would expect someone like that to rock! Yet... even one bandit (read: commoner with crossbow) can send a lvl 1 fighter wailing in fear.</p><p></p><p>2nd Example: lvl 1 wizard has spent years (or decades, depending on race) mastering their arts of the arcane. After years of apprenticship and study, this wizard can... um... fire off a magic missle for 2 points of damage that won't even take out the local grandma, much less a raging orc warrior. And after firing off this wonder of arcane power, the wizard wants to go take a nap. Lets not forget that he can only read magic twice a day. Maybe that's why it took years to learn to cast spells? Hmm.... sounds like the lvl 1 elf wizard didn't study hard for all those decades he was mastering his craft.</p><p></p><p>Bring on the lvl 1 heroes that actually match what they can do! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Traycor, post: 3721863, member: 54613"] This is fantastic news! In 3E I hated how a first lvl char had the abilities of a hero, but couldn't back it up. 1st Example: lvl 1 fighter is proficient in all martial and simple weapons. That's 30-40 weapons plus training in all types of armor and shields. Does anyone here know someone proficient in 40 different weapons?! I would expect someone like that to rock! Yet... even one bandit (read: commoner with crossbow) can send a lvl 1 fighter wailing in fear. 2nd Example: lvl 1 wizard has spent years (or decades, depending on race) mastering their arts of the arcane. After years of apprenticship and study, this wizard can... um... fire off a magic missle for 2 points of damage that won't even take out the local grandma, much less a raging orc warrior. And after firing off this wonder of arcane power, the wizard wants to go take a nap. Lets not forget that he can only read magic twice a day. Maybe that's why it took years to learn to cast spells? Hmm.... sounds like the lvl 1 elf wizard didn't study hard for all those decades he was mastering his craft. Bring on the lvl 1 heroes that actually match what they can do! :D [/QUOTE]
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