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<blockquote data-quote="Fenris_x" data-source="post: 3742818" data-attributes="member: 34062">Sun Knight, it seems to me that what you're saying is:&quot;I find it fun to suck for the first three to five hours of game time, and also fun to risk several more hours of not actually playing the game because my character is dead.&nbsp; Why won't 4e cater to my style of fun?&quot;The answer is, 4e is not the game for you.&nbsp; Not all games are fun for everybody.&nbsp; I started playing this game with 1e, with 1st-level wizards who had no cantrips or bonus spells, couldn't use crossbows, had rolled HP instead of max HD, and no Con bonus either.&nbsp; We cheated *cough* I mean houseruled on our stats and HP rolls, because it was the only way to make the game even playable.&nbsp; We had fun, but the game sucked, from a design standpoint.&nbsp; I loved playing it at the time, but you couldn't drag me back to that rule system with a team of rabid centaur.I suggest you should play 1e, not 4e.&nbsp; There you have a ludicrously low chance of succeeding at anything and spend the majority of play hours rolling up new characters, so it should be exactly the type of thing you find fun.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Fenris_x, post: 3742818, member: 34062"] Sun Knight, it seems to me that what you're saying is: "I find it fun to suck for the first three to five hours of game time, and also fun to risk several more hours of not actually playing the game because my character is dead. Why won't 4e cater to my style of fun?" The answer is, 4e is not the game for you. Not all games are fun for everybody. I started playing this game with 1e, with 1st-level wizards who had no cantrips or bonus spells, couldn't use crossbows, had rolled HP instead of max HD, and no Con bonus either. We cheated *cough* I mean houseruled on our stats and HP rolls, because it was the only way to make the game even playable. We had fun, but the game sucked, from a design standpoint. I loved playing it at the time, but you couldn't drag me back to that rule system with a team of rabid centaur. I suggest you should play 1e, not 4e. There you have a ludicrously low chance of succeeding at anything and spend the majority of play hours rolling up new characters, so it should be exactly the type of thing you find fun. [/QUOTE]

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