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<blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 7396201" data-attributes="member: 20564">War clerics specialty seems to be about personal excellence in combat.&nbsp; This is taken from their weapon proficiencies, their features, their channel divinity, and a number of their domain spell selection.&nbsp; This will be the basis if Order clerics overshadow War clerics at what the War domain is intended to do.Order clerics don't have martial weapon proficiency.&nbsp; With the exception of the generic Divine Strike that half the domains get, they get no class features to improve their own combat ability.&nbsp; Of their domain spells, the only combat buff is Heroism, to ignore the frightened condition and gain a few temp HPs - not a huge boost and not self only.Looking at this, the Order cleric in no way seems to represent that it is replacing the War cleric, there is really no overlap in the thrust of the war domain and the thrust of the order domain.Can they do other nifty things that may be more powerful?&nbsp; Sure.&nbsp; So can other domains. War cleric is on the low end of the cleric domain power curve.&nbsp; Are they positioned to replace the War domain at what War does?&nbsp; Nope.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Blue, post: 7396201, member: 20564"] War clerics specialty seems to be about personal excellence in combat. This is taken from their weapon proficiencies, their features, their channel divinity, and a number of their domain spell selection. This will be the basis if Order clerics overshadow War clerics [I]at what the War domain is intended to do.[/I] Order clerics don't have martial weapon proficiency. With the exception of the generic Divine Strike that half the domains get, they get no class features to improve their own combat ability. Of their domain spells, the only combat buff is Heroism, to ignore the frightened condition and gain a few temp HPs - not a huge boost and not self only. Looking at this, the Order cleric in no way seems to represent that it is replacing the War cleric, there is really no overlap in the thrust of the war domain and the thrust of the order domain. Can they do other nifty things that may be more powerful? Sure. So can other domains. War cleric is on the low end of the cleric domain power curve. Are they positioned to replace the War domain at what War does? Nope. [/QUOTE]

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